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	<title>Comments on: The Beauty of Deceit</title>
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	<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/loom/2005/08/28/the-beauty-of-deceit/</link>
	<description>A blog about life, past and future. Written by DISCOVER contributing editor and columnist Carl Zimmer.</description>
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		<title>By: Aydin</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/loom/2005/08/28/the-beauty-of-deceit/comment-page-1/#comment-7750</link>
		<dc:creator>Aydin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Aug 2005 03:03:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If Disa nivea plants are not as abundant as foxgloves, then it may not matter to the flies that they don&#039;t have nectar. Not every foxglove would have nectar in it all the time. For example, a foxglove that has just been visited by a fly will be empty for the next fly that comes along soon after the first one. So, if the orchids are rare, the flies may simply &quot;think&quot; that they are empty foxgloves.

Incidentally, Darwin didn&#039;t really have a farm, did he? He just had a big house with gardens.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If Disa nivea plants are not as abundant as foxgloves, then it may not matter to the flies that they don&#8217;t have nectar. Not every foxglove would have nectar in it all the time. For example, a foxglove that has just been visited by a fly will be empty for the next fly that comes along soon after the first one. So, if the orchids are rare, the flies may simply &#8220;think&#8221; that they are empty foxgloves.</p>
<p>Incidentally, Darwin didn&#8217;t really have a farm, did he? He just had a big house with gardens.</p>
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		<title>By: D. B. Light</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/loom/2005/08/28/the-beauty-of-deceit/comment-page-1/#comment-7749</link>
		<dc:creator>D. B. Light</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Aug 2005 16:47:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice post -- co-evolution is a tricky subject to discuss, but you are a great explainer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice post &#8212; co-evolution is a tricky subject to discuss, but you are a great explainer.</p>
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		<title>By: linguist</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/loom/2005/08/28/the-beauty-of-deceit/comment-page-1/#comment-7748</link>
		<dc:creator>linguist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Aug 2005 16:16:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Speaking of orchids, apparently they&#039;ve got some stinky ones blooming right now in Australia. Good timing.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Speaking of orchids, apparently they&#8217;ve got some stinky ones blooming right now in Australia. Good timing.<br />
<a href="http://www.suntimes.com/output/news/cst-nws-foul30.html" rel="nofollow"></a><a href="http://www.suntimes.com/output/news/cst-nws-foul30.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.suntimes.com/output/news/cst-nws-foul30.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Alex</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/loom/2005/08/28/the-beauty-of-deceit/comment-page-1/#comment-7747</link>
		<dc:creator>Alex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Aug 2005 23:06:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;ve a real gift for explaining complex biology in simple terms.

A few years ago I was in South Africa and met some of the scientists involved in the fly-flower research.  It&#039;s one of the most charismatic study systems I&#039;ve seen, both entomologically and botanically.  For what it&#039;s worth, I snapped this picture of a fly visiting one of the nectar-producing flowers:

&lt;a href=&quot;http://myrmecos.net/insects/Philoliche1.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://myrmecos.net/insects/Philoliche1.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://myrmecos.net/insects/Philoliche1.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;ve a real gift for explaining complex biology in simple terms.</p>
<p>A few years ago I was in South Africa and met some of the scientists involved in the fly-flower research.  It&#8217;s one of the most charismatic study systems I&#8217;ve seen, both entomologically and botanically.  For what it&#8217;s worth, I snapped this picture of a fly visiting one of the nectar-producing flowers:</p>
<p><a href="http://myrmecos.net/insects/Philoliche1.html" rel="nofollow"></a><a href="http://myrmecos.net/insects/Philoliche1.html" rel="nofollow">http://myrmecos.net/insects/Philoliche1.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Scott Belyea</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/loom/2005/08/28/the-beauty-of-deceit/comment-page-1/#comment-7746</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott Belyea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Aug 2005 20:53:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A lovely article, with writing that matches the elegance of the topic.

However - &quot;Over 8,000 species of orchids are believed to practice deceit.&quot;

Hmmm. What does this say about the Intelligent Designer???    :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A lovely article, with writing that matches the elegance of the topic.</p>
<p>However &#8211; &#8220;Over 8,000 species of orchids are believed to practice deceit.&#8221;</p>
<p>Hmmm. What does this say about the Intelligent Designer???    <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/loom/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Cameron Peters</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/loom/2005/08/28/the-beauty-of-deceit/comment-page-1/#comment-7745</link>
		<dc:creator>Cameron Peters</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Aug 2005 16:41:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post, Carl.  There was a PBS program titled Deep Jungle a few months ago and in one episode they followed a biologist who was trying to film the hawk moth for the first time.  They kind of gave the impression the moth had not been seen before, just predicted; maybe it was the first time it had been photographed?  By the way, I&#039;m always impressed by the wide variety of sources you draw upon.  Do you search and read the literature 20 hours a day, or do you have other means of finding all of this info?  What&#039;s your secret?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post, Carl.  There was a PBS program titled Deep Jungle a few months ago and in one episode they followed a biologist who was trying to film the hawk moth for the first time.  They kind of gave the impression the moth had not been seen before, just predicted; maybe it was the first time it had been photographed?  By the way, I&#8217;m always impressed by the wide variety of sources you draw upon.  Do you search and read the literature 20 hours a day, or do you have other means of finding all of this info?  What&#8217;s your secret?</p>
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		<title>By: Carl Zimmer</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/loom/2005/08/28/the-beauty-of-deceit/comment-page-1/#comment-7744</link>
		<dc:creator>Carl Zimmer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Aug 2005 16:11:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello? Is this thing on? Testing...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello? Is this thing on? Testing&#8230;</p>
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