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		<title>By: David</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/loom/2007/02/21/sources-sources/#comment-4821</link>
		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Mar 2007 17:21:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Check out my entry on Nylon-eating bacteria:

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.conservapedia.com/Nylon-eating_bacteria&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.conservapedia.com/Nylon-eating_bacteria&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Check out my entry on Nylon-eating bacteria:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.conservapedia.com/Nylon-eating_bacteria" rel="nofollow">http://www.conservapedia.com/Nylon-eating_bacteria</a></p>
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		<title>By: djlactin</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/loom/2007/02/21/sources-sources/#comment-4820</link>
		<dc:creator>djlactin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Mar 2007 15:11:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mr Pantazi:

You are falling for a ruse that has been drilled into your brain since you were too young to question it:  &quot; the argument from authority.&quot;  you have been conditioned since childhodd to accept the pronouncements of people who are bigger than you.  So without questioning, you argue: &quot;Wile is educated; therefore he is correct.&quot;
Confused?  Well. I&#039;m a trained evolutionary biologist.  I say that Wile is wrong.  What do you reply?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr Pantazi:</p>
<p>You are falling for a ruse that has been drilled into your brain since you were too young to question it:  &#8221; the argument from authority.&#8221;  you have been conditioned since childhodd to accept the pronouncements of people who are bigger than you.  So without questioning, you argue: &#8220;Wile is educated; therefore he is correct.&#8221;<br />
Confused?  Well. I&#8217;m a trained evolutionary biologist.  I say that Wile is wrong.  What do you reply?</p>
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		<title>By: Meade</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/loom/2007/02/21/sources-sources/#comment-4819</link>
		<dc:creator>Meade</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Mar 2007 14:06:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with Mr. Pantazi that everyone is entitled to his opinion/beliefs, just not his own facts. In reviewing Dr. Wile&#039;s credentials, as presented by Mr. Pantazi, I note that he is not a biologist, and so have no basis for believing that his insights into one of the central tenets of biology are more valid than those of a lawyer, say. Outside of one&#039;s areas of expertise, everyone is a layman. For example, I have a Ph.D. in microbiology, but don&#039;t feel I have the expertise to address the technical merits of string theory.  If authoritative pronouncements from people without relevant credentials count, I guess every barber and taxi driver with an opinion to share sould be considered and expert in economics, or foreign policy, or.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Mr. Pantazi that everyone is entitled to his opinion/beliefs, just not his own facts. In reviewing Dr. Wile&#8217;s credentials, as presented by Mr. Pantazi, I note that he is not a biologist, and so have no basis for believing that his insights into one of the central tenets of biology are more valid than those of a lawyer, say. Outside of one&#8217;s areas of expertise, everyone is a layman. For example, I have a Ph.D. in microbiology, but don&#8217;t feel I have the expertise to address the technical merits of string theory.  If authoritative pronouncements from people without relevant credentials count, I guess every barber and taxi driver with an opinion to share sould be considered and expert in economics, or foreign policy, or&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew Travis Pantazi</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/loom/2007/02/21/sources-sources/#comment-4818</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew Travis Pantazi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Mar 2007 00:09:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mr. Zimmer, I respect the fact that you are willing to research both sides of the story by looking at conservapedia and I generally have a respect for people who take a career in science.  However, I am a Christian, conservative, home-schooled student who studies Wile&#039;s books and I don&#039;t think that it is right for you to insult someone just because you disagree with him on his beliefs.  Macroevolution is classified as an unconfirmed hypothesis, Dr. Wile feels that more evidence leads him to believe that scientifically the idea of an intelligent design is more secure.  I also remind you that Dr. Wile received an ovation stating he was an outstanding teacher at the University of Chicago. Other positive accomplishments include:
Ph.D. in nuclear chemistry from the University of Rochester in New York
B.S. in chemistry from the University of Rochester in New York
He is a former assistant professor of chemistry at Ball State University, Muncie, Indiana (1992-95)
He is a former instructor of science at Indiana Academy of Science, Muncie, Indiana (1990-92)
He is a member of the American Chemical Society
He is a member of the American Physical Society
He is a member of the American Association for the Advancement of Science
I am not trying to convince you to agree with his beliefs but to at least respect that he is a prestigious and accomplished scientist, not just a radical conservative who tried to put text books together without any knowledge.

Thank you for your time,
Andrew Travis Pantazi</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr. Zimmer, I respect the fact that you are willing to research both sides of the story by looking at conservapedia and I generally have a respect for people who take a career in science.  However, I am a Christian, conservative, home-schooled student who studies Wile&#8217;s books and I don&#8217;t think that it is right for you to insult someone just because you disagree with him on his beliefs.  Macroevolution is classified as an unconfirmed hypothesis, Dr. Wile feels that more evidence leads him to believe that scientifically the idea of an intelligent design is more secure.  I also remind you that Dr. Wile received an ovation stating he was an outstanding teacher at the University of Chicago. Other positive accomplishments include:<br />
Ph.D. in nuclear chemistry from the University of Rochester in New York<br />
B.S. in chemistry from the University of Rochester in New York<br />
He is a former assistant professor of chemistry at Ball State University, Muncie, Indiana (1992-95)<br />
He is a former instructor of science at Indiana Academy of Science, Muncie, Indiana (1990-92)<br />
He is a member of the American Chemical Society<br />
He is a member of the American Physical Society<br />
He is a member of the American Association for the Advancement of Science<br />
I am not trying to convince you to agree with his beliefs but to at least respect that he is a prestigious and accomplished scientist, not just a radical conservative who tried to put text books together without any knowledge.</p>
<p>Thank you for your time,<br />
Andrew Travis Pantazi</p>
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		<title>By: Nathan James</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/loom/2007/02/21/sources-sources/#comment-4817</link>
		<dc:creator>Nathan James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Mar 2007 08:23:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While I was home-schooled I was forced to explore Creation with general science, a truly horrifying experience. The text is written and organized in a sloppy and unprofessional manner, the experiments were generally lame and uneducational, every few pages were punctuated with paragraph-long digressions about God&#039;s glory -- all pretty much standard fare for a creationist textbook. But Wile went seriously beyond the call of duty with a laughably ignorant &quot;refutation&quot; of global warming that, I believe, relied on the argument that, if one were to turn the thermostat up only a couple of degrees, one would have difficulty feeling the difference.

Just to reiterate, Exploring Creation with General Science is supposed to be a SEVENTH GRADE textbook (according to &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.highschoolscience.com/books/ecgs/index.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.highschoolscience.com/books/ecgs/index.html&lt;/a&gt; -- notice the arrogant jab at public school textbooks!) Could this mean that Conservapedia&#039;s science pages are largely being edited by seventh graders?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While I was home-schooled I was forced to explore Creation with general science, a truly horrifying experience. The text is written and organized in a sloppy and unprofessional manner, the experiments were generally lame and uneducational, every few pages were punctuated with paragraph-long digressions about God&#8217;s glory &#8212; all pretty much standard fare for a creationist textbook. But Wile went seriously beyond the call of duty with a laughably ignorant &#8220;refutation&#8221; of global warming that, I believe, relied on the argument that, if one were to turn the thermostat up only a couple of degrees, one would have difficulty feeling the difference.</p>
<p>Just to reiterate, Exploring Creation with General Science is supposed to be a SEVENTH GRADE textbook (according to <a href="http://www.highschoolscience.com/books/ecgs/index.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.highschoolscience.com/books/ecgs/index.html</a> &#8212; notice the arrogant jab at public school textbooks!) Could this mean that Conservapedia&#8217;s science pages are largely being edited by seventh graders?</p>
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		<title>By: Marlene</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/loom/2007/02/21/sources-sources/#comment-4816</link>
		<dc:creator>Marlene</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Mar 2007 14:42:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is there anyone who can recommend a good book about the history of the &quot;evolutionist-creationist-conflict&quot; up until now?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is there anyone who can recommend a good book about the history of the &#8220;evolutionist-creationist-conflict&#8221; up until now?</p>
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		<title>By: Carl Zimmer</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/loom/2007/02/21/sources-sources/#comment-4815</link>
		<dc:creator>Carl Zimmer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Mar 2007 01:40:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Michael, what do you mean by &quot;worse,&quot; in the context of my example? And how do they do it more maliciously? If you&#039;re going to make accusations, you need to give examples.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michael, what do you mean by &#8220;worse,&#8221; in the context of my example? And how do they do it more maliciously? If you&#8217;re going to make accusations, you need to give examples.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Hopkins</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/loom/2007/02/21/sources-sources/#comment-4814</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Hopkins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Mar 2007 01:49:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Many Wikipedia editors do worse than this, and they do it more maliciously.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Many Wikipedia editors do worse than this, and they do it more maliciously.</p>
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		<title>By: RandomWitticism</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/loom/2007/02/21/sources-sources/#comment-4813</link>
		<dc:creator>RandomWitticism</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Mar 2007 15:39:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You can&#039;t create a user account on conservapedia!  I checked the log/create account link, the help topic for creating accounts and some other stuff, only thing I could find was a small blurb saying email the eagle forum to have them create and account for you</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You can&#8217;t create a user account on conservapedia!  I checked the log/create account link, the help topic for creating accounts and some other stuff, only thing I could find was a small blurb saying email the eagle forum to have them create and account for you</p>
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		<title>By: Jeremiadist</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/loom/2007/02/21/sources-sources/#comment-4812</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeremiadist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Feb 2007 21:42:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It should be clear to the attentive reader that LOrDsSeRvAnT is a troll. Poe&#039;s Law (see &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Poe&#039;s+Law&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Poe&#039;s+Law&lt;/a&gt; )always wins.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It should be clear to the attentive reader that LOrDsSeRvAnT is a troll. Poe&#8217;s Law (see <a href="http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Poe's+Law" rel="nofollow">http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Poe&#039;s+Law</a> )always wins.</p>
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