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		<title>By: Jim Hu</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/loom/2007/11/13/rules-of-the-swarm/comment-page-1/#comment-5737</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim Hu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Nov 2007 20:26:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting &lt;a href=&#039;http://www.sciencemag.org/cgi/content/full/318/5853/1155&#039; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;new paper in Science&lt;/a&gt; related to this kind of collective action (&lt;a href=&#039;http://dimer.tamu.edu/simplog/archive.php?blogid=3&amp;pid=5787&#039; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;blogged here&lt;/a&gt;).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting <a href='http://www.sciencemag.org/cgi/content/full/318/5853/1155' rel="nofollow">new paper in Science</a> related to this kind of collective action (<a href='http://dimer.tamu.edu/simplog/archive.php?blogid=3&amp;pid=5787' rel="nofollow">blogged here</a>).</p>
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		<title>By: Alan Kellogg</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/loom/2007/11/13/rules-of-the-swarm/comment-page-1/#comment-5736</link>
		<dc:creator>Alan Kellogg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Nov 2007 06:44:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A clowder of kittens, a murder of crows, an excitement of preteens.

Anybody else have more group names, actual or just made up?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A clowder of kittens, a murder of crows, an excitement of preteens.</p>
<p>Anybody else have more group names, actual or just made up?</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Baker</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/loom/2007/11/13/rules-of-the-swarm/comment-page-1/#comment-5735</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian Baker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2007 22:43:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mr. Benson-- well said!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr. Benson&#8211; well said!</p>
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		<title>By: David B. Benson</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/loom/2007/11/13/rules-of-the-swarm/comment-page-1/#comment-5734</link>
		<dc:creator>David B. Benson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2007 02:20:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jimeny Cricket!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jimeny Cricket!</p>
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		<title>By: Ewen</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/loom/2007/11/13/rules-of-the-swarm/comment-page-1/#comment-5733</link>
		<dc:creator>Ewen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Nov 2007 04:46:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Congrats on the prize. You should try to attend as much of the conference as you can. I was at last year&#039;s meeting, and I&#039;m still going back to my notes for story ideas.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Congrats on the prize. You should try to attend as much of the conference as you can. I was at last year&#8217;s meeting, and I&#8217;m still going back to my notes for story ideas.</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Nov 2007 00:34:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;&quot;Each cricket itself is a perfectly balanced source of nutrition,&quot; Dr. Couzin said. &quot;So the crickets, every 17 seconds or so, try to attack other individuals. If you don&#039;t move, you&#039;re likely to be eaten.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

&lt;i&gt;This collective movement causes the crickets to form vast swarms. &quot;All these crickets are on a forced march,&quot; Dr. Couzin said. &quot;They&#039;re trying to attack the crickets who are ahead, and they&#039;re trying to avoid being eaten from behind.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

This is like something from Dante&#039;s Inferno.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>&#8220;Each cricket itself is a perfectly balanced source of nutrition,&#8221; Dr. Couzin said. &#8220;So the crickets, every 17 seconds or so, try to attack other individuals. If you don&#8217;t move, you&#8217;re likely to be eaten.&#8221;</i></p>
<p><i>This collective movement causes the crickets to form vast swarms. &#8220;All these crickets are on a forced march,&#8221; Dr. Couzin said. &#8220;They&#8217;re trying to attack the crickets who are ahead, and they&#8217;re trying to avoid being eaten from behind.&#8221;</i></p>
<p>This is like something from Dante&#8217;s Inferno.</p>
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		<title>By: Doug</title>
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		<dc:creator>Doug</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Nov 2007 22:57:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I read Erica Klarreich, The Mind of the Swarm: Math explains how group behavior is more than the sum of its parts&quot; in Science News Week of Nov. 25, 2006; Vol. 170, No. 22 , p. 347.

I have not yet read original articles by Ian Couzin.
On his webpage, Full publication list, I note the paper 32. Nabet, B., Leonard, N.E., Couzin, I.D. &amp; Levin, S.A. (2007) Dynamics of decision-making in animal group motion, submitted.

I suspect this will make use of mathematical game theory and control theory.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I read Erica Klarreich, The Mind of the Swarm: Math explains how group behavior is more than the sum of its parts&#8221; in Science News Week of Nov. 25, 2006; Vol. 170, No. 22 , p. 347.</p>
<p>I have not yet read original articles by Ian Couzin.<br />
On his webpage, Full publication list, I note the paper 32. Nabet, B., Leonard, N.E., Couzin, I.D. &amp; Levin, S.A. (2007) Dynamics of decision-making in animal group motion, submitted.</p>
<p>I suspect this will make use of mathematical game theory and control theory.</p>
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		<title>By: Carl Zimmer</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/loom/2007/11/13/rules-of-the-swarm/comment-page-1/#comment-5730</link>
		<dc:creator>Carl Zimmer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Nov 2007 18:57:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ford--No offense taken...I have conveyed the wrong tone very often myself. And I certainly wish I had had more room to go into these issues, but space is limited in the newspaper. And this week, time is limited too. I&#039;ll just say here that herds can be selfless or selfish, and genetic structure plays a big part.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ford&#8211;No offense taken&#8230;I have conveyed the wrong tone very often myself. And I certainly wish I had had more room to go into these issues, but space is limited in the newspaper. And this week, time is limited too. I&#8217;ll just say here that herds can be selfless or selfish, and genetic structure plays a big part.</p>
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		<title>By: Ford</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ford</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Nov 2007 18:24:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I apologize for the tone of my comment, which turned out more negative than I intended. But I found it frustrating that after mentioning relatedness, its implications weren&#039;t really discussed.  Are there rules that apply equally to swarming by relatives vs. nonrelatives -- if so, does that imply that relatedness is less important than we thought for other kinds of interactions? -- or do they need to be analyzed separately?  And so on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I apologize for the tone of my comment, which turned out more negative than I intended. But I found it frustrating that after mentioning relatedness, its implications weren&#8217;t really discussed.  Are there rules that apply equally to swarming by relatives vs. nonrelatives &#8212; if so, does that imply that relatedness is less important than we thought for other kinds of interactions? &#8212; or do they need to be analyzed separately?  And so on.</p>
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		<title>By: Blake Stacey</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/loom/2007/11/13/rules-of-the-swarm/comment-page-1/#comment-5728</link>
		<dc:creator>Blake Stacey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Nov 2007 18:23:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I got to see Couzin at the recent &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.sunclipse.org/?cat=35&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;International Conference on Complex Systems&lt;/a&gt;; unfortunately, my pictures of him turned out rather blurry, because my camera decided to try auto-detecting its shutter speed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I got to see Couzin at the recent <a href="http://www.sunclipse.org/?cat=35" rel="nofollow">International Conference on Complex Systems</a>; unfortunately, my pictures of him turned out rather blurry, because my camera decided to try auto-detecting its shutter speed.</p>
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		<title>By: BrianR</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/loom/2007/11/13/rules-of-the-swarm/comment-page-1/#comment-5727</link>
		<dc:creator>BrianR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Nov 2007 16:20:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wonderful article in NYT, I enjoyed it...thanks for the link to Couzin&#039;s research website too</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wonderful article in NYT, I enjoyed it&#8230;thanks for the link to Couzin&#8217;s research website too</p>
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		<title>By: Carl Zimmer</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/loom/2007/11/13/rules-of-the-swarm/comment-page-1/#comment-5726</link>
		<dc:creator>Carl Zimmer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Nov 2007 16:14:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ford--Iain understands the difference, and I think my article reflects an understanding as well. I explain, for example, how army ants are relatives but mormon crickets are not, and their swarms are based on different evolutionary processes. There are plenty of other animals that form large swarms without having the close kinship of social insects--fish, for example.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ford&#8211;Iain understands the difference, and I think my article reflects an understanding as well. I explain, for example, how army ants are relatives but mormon crickets are not, and their swarms are based on different evolutionary processes. There are plenty of other animals that form large swarms without having the close kinship of social insects&#8211;fish, for example.</p>
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		<title>By: Ford</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/loom/2007/11/13/rules-of-the-swarm/comment-page-1/#comment-5725</link>
		<dc:creator>Ford</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Nov 2007 16:09:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The reason may be that the ants have had a lot more time to adapt to living in big groups.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The reason may be that the ants have had a lot more time to adapt to living in big groups.</p>
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