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		<title>By: Greg Peterson</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/loom/2008/07/03/lifes-modest-majesty/#comment-7931</link>
		<dc:creator>Greg Peterson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2008 16:53:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Are BEYOND evolutionary innovation&#039;s outer limit, that should say.

OK, and I didn&#039;t do a great job with the whole comment.  What I&#039;m trying to get at is, I picture the first air-breathing tetrapod and there&#039;s all this LAND with all these various terrains and climates and such, and evolution can go off wildly in many directions.  But once those niches are filled, I would think that the capacity for radical innovation would taper severely.  Could that not be the limiting factor?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are BEYOND evolutionary innovation&#8217;s outer limit, that should say.</p>
<p>OK, and I didn&#8217;t do a great job with the whole comment.  What I&#8217;m trying to get at is, I picture the first air-breathing tetrapod and there&#8217;s all this LAND with all these various terrains and climates and such, and evolution can go off wildly in many directions.  But once those niches are filled, I would think that the capacity for radical innovation would taper severely.  Could that not be the limiting factor?</p>
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		<title>By: Greg Peterson</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/loom/2008/07/03/lifes-modest-majesty/#comment-7930</link>
		<dc:creator>Greg Peterson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2008 16:50:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Would we not expect an explosion of diversity shortly after a new phylum emerged as new niches are exploited and filled, and a slow-down in diversity once available niches are evolutionary innovation&#039;s outer limit?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Would we not expect an explosion of diversity shortly after a new phylum emerged as new niches are exploited and filled, and a slow-down in diversity once available niches are evolutionary innovation&#8217;s outer limit?</p>
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		<title>By: amphiox</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/loom/2008/07/03/lifes-modest-majesty/#comment-7929</link>
		<dc:creator>amphiox</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2008 02:48:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>WARNING: using loupes to pick at even smaller nits. . . .

          one that claimed the dinosaurs

     and

          this myth that dinosaurs went extinct at the end of the Cretaceous

That event certainly claimed dinosaurs. Lots of them went extinct. A vast majority, I would presume. Mr. Zimmer did not write &quot;all&quot; dinosaurs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WARNING: using loupes to pick at even smaller nits. . . .</p>
<p>          one that claimed the dinosaurs</p>
<p>     and</p>
<p>          this myth that dinosaurs went extinct at the end of the Cretaceous</p>
<p>That event certainly claimed dinosaurs. Lots of them went extinct. A vast majority, I would presume. Mr. Zimmer did not write &#8220;all&#8221; dinosaurs.</p>
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		<title>By: Carl Zimmer</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/loom/2008/07/03/lifes-modest-majesty/#comment-7928</link>
		<dc:creator>Carl Zimmer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 01:43:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I let that one slip by me. When I say dinosaurs, I mean, of course, non-avian dinosaurs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I let that one slip by me. When I say dinosaurs, I mean, of course, non-avian dinosaurs.</p>
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		<title>By: Jerry Dl. Harris</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/loom/2008/07/03/lifes-modest-majesty/#comment-7927</link>
		<dc:creator>Jerry Dl. Harris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 00:57:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>WARNING: nit-picking ahead...

&lt;blockquote&gt;Some of the sexiest mass extinctions, like the one that claimed the dinosaurs 65 million years ago&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Shame on you, Mr. Zimmer!  As one of the best and a leading science journalists out there (and, might I add, one I respect a great deal), I find it surprising that you would perpetuate this long-standing myth about the Cretaceous-Paleogene extinction event!  Surely you know that birds are extant dinosaurs (birds evolved from theropod dinosaurs and therefore &lt;i&gt;are&lt;/i&gt; theropod dinosaurs, just as humans evolved from primates and therefore &lt;i&gt;are&lt;/i&gt; primates), so the quoted sentence is patently false as stated.  Is it true that the end-Cretaceous extinction claimed &lt;i&gt;most&lt;/i&gt; of the dinosaurs?  Certainly.  Is it still a &quot;sexy&quot; extinction event (in the sense of being evocative for the non-specialist and attracting lots of scientific attention)?  Of course.  But we&#039;ve known for over 20 years now that dinosaurs did &lt;i&gt;not&lt;/i&gt; go extinct at the end of the Cretaceous because some of them survived and even thrived in the Cenozoic and supercede mammals in terms of diversity today!  Please...let&#039;s kill this myth that dinosaurs went extinct at the end of the Cretaceous!</description>
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<blockquote><p>Some of the sexiest mass extinctions, like the one that claimed the dinosaurs 65 million years ago</p></blockquote>
<p>Shame on you, Mr. Zimmer!  As one of the best and a leading science journalists out there (and, might I add, one I respect a great deal), I find it surprising that you would perpetuate this long-standing myth about the Cretaceous-Paleogene extinction event!  Surely you know that birds are extant dinosaurs (birds evolved from theropod dinosaurs and therefore <i>are</i> theropod dinosaurs, just as humans evolved from primates and therefore <i>are</i> primates), so the quoted sentence is patently false as stated.  Is it true that the end-Cretaceous extinction claimed <i>most</i> of the dinosaurs?  Certainly.  Is it still a &#8220;sexy&#8221; extinction event (in the sense of being evocative for the non-specialist and attracting lots of scientific attention)?  Of course.  But we&#8217;ve known for over 20 years now that dinosaurs did <i>not</i> go extinct at the end of the Cretaceous because some of them survived and even thrived in the Cenozoic and supercede mammals in terms of diversity today!  Please&#8230;let&#8217;s kill this myth that dinosaurs went extinct at the end of the Cretaceous!</p>
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		<title>By: amphiox</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/loom/2008/07/03/lifes-modest-majesty/#comment-7926</link>
		<dc:creator>amphiox</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2008 17:33:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmm, this graph seems to contradict a claim I read in a book by Peter Ward (The Life and Death of Planet Earth, I think) that earth&#039;s total bioproductivity had probably peaked during the Permain and has been dropping steadily since.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmm, this graph seems to contradict a claim I read in a book by Peter Ward (The Life and Death of Planet Earth, I think) that earth&#8217;s total bioproductivity had probably peaked during the Permain and has been dropping steadily since.</p>
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		<title>By: Phil Plait</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/loom/2008/07/03/lifes-modest-majesty/#comment-7925</link>
		<dc:creator>Phil Plait</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jul 2008 19:32:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting! The bin size is a bit too big to see any periodicity on a, say, 60 million year time scale. There&#039;s a claim that there is a periodic drop in number of genera on that scale, possibly linked with the Sun&#039;s orbit around the Milky Way. I explore this a bit in my upcoming book, and while it&#039;s interesting, it&#039;s still tentative.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting! The bin size is a bit too big to see any periodicity on a, say, 60 million year time scale. There&#8217;s a claim that there is a periodic drop in number of genera on that scale, possibly linked with the Sun&#8217;s orbit around the Milky Way. I explore this a bit in my upcoming book, and while it&#8217;s interesting, it&#8217;s still tentative.</p>
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		<title>By: llewelly</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/loom/2008/07/03/lifes-modest-majesty/#comment-7924</link>
		<dc:creator>llewelly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jul 2008 21:29:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Everyone interested in biological diversity should read &lt;a href=&quot;http://scienceblogs.com/grrlscientist/2008/07/slip_sliding_away_faster_extin.php&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this great article&lt;/a&gt; on still more evidence that a severe drop in diversity has already began.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Everyone interested in biological diversity should read <a href="http://scienceblogs.com/grrlscientist/2008/07/slip_sliding_away_faster_extin.php" rel="nofollow">this great article</a> on still more evidence that a severe drop in diversity has already began.</p>
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		<title>By: David Bradley</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/loom/2008/07/03/lifes-modest-majesty/#comment-7923</link>
		<dc:creator>David Bradley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jul 2008 07:38:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Intriguing, yes...but greater diversity now than millions of years ago does not mean (as you know) that we have any excuse to ignore the destruction of ecosystems across the globe, with concomitant extinctions, that we  carry out in the name of progress.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Intriguing, yes&#8230;but greater diversity now than millions of years ago does not mean (as you know) that we have any excuse to ignore the destruction of ecosystems across the globe, with concomitant extinctions, that we  carry out in the name of progress.</p>
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		<title>By: Jan-Maarten</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/loom/2008/07/03/lifes-modest-majesty/#comment-7922</link>
		<dc:creator>Jan-Maarten</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jul 2008 07:02:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fascinating! Looks like there&#039;s a couple of sharp drops after gradual rises.. But what&#039;s up with the gradual decline in the Carbonian?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fascinating! Looks like there&#8217;s a couple of sharp drops after gradual rises.. But what&#8217;s up with the gradual decline in the Carbonian?</p>
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