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	<title>Comments on: Festooning The Tree Of Life</title>
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		<title>By: To the Tips of its Roots &#171; Unlocking The Tao</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/loom/2008/07/17/festooning-the-tree-of-life/comment-page-1/#comment-53140</link>
		<dc:creator>To the Tips of its Roots &#171; Unlocking The Tao</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Feb 2011 06:11:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Microbes swap pieces of their DNA to communicate their behavior. This lateral gene transfer is so commonplace biologists no longer regard microbes as truly possessed of an attribute of species. Even single communities of bacteria like E. Coli display enormous genetic diversity, any 2 individuals differing by as much as 40% of their genome. And lateral gene transfer isn&#8217;t limited to microbes. Their genes jump to the genomes of multi-celled forms, including humans. Mycelium underfoot [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Microbes swap pieces of their DNA to communicate their behavior. This lateral gene transfer is so commonplace biologists no longer regard microbes as truly possessed of an attribute of species. Even single communities of bacteria like E. Coli display enormous genetic diversity, any 2 individuals differing by as much as 40% of their genome. And lateral gene transfer isn&#8217;t limited to microbes. Their genes jump to the genomes of multi-celled forms, including humans. Mycelium underfoot [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Lao Tzu Chapter 1 &#171; Unlocking The Tao</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lao Tzu Chapter 1 &#171; Unlocking The Tao</dc:creator>
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		<description>[...] Microbes swap pieces of their DNA to communicate their behavior. This lateral gene transfer is so commonplace biologists no longer regard microbes as truly possessed of an attribute of species. Even commonplace bacteria like E. Coli display enormous genetic diversity, any 2 individuals differing by as much as 40% of their genome. Lateral gene transfer isn&#8217;t even limited to prokaryotes &#8211; the microbial genes jump into the genomes of multi-celled forms, including humans. Romanesco Broccoli [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Microbes swap pieces of their DNA to communicate their behavior. This lateral gene transfer is so commonplace biologists no longer regard microbes as truly possessed of an attribute of species. Even commonplace bacteria like E. Coli display enormous genetic diversity, any 2 individuals differing by as much as 40% of their genome. Lateral gene transfer isn&#8217;t even limited to prokaryotes &#8211; the microbial genes jump into the genomes of multi-celled forms, including humans. Romanesco Broccoli [...]</p>
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		<title>By: The Language Tree &#171; Thoughtomics</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/loom/2008/07/17/festooning-the-tree-of-life/comment-page-1/#comment-52105</link>
		<dc:creator>The Language Tree &#171; Thoughtomics</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Jan 2011 17:04:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] flows of genes during evolution. While Dagan and colleagues initially made these networks to map gene transfer in bacteria, they have recently applied the same method to see how the borrowing of words affects [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] flows of genes during evolution. While Dagan and colleagues initially made these networks to map gene transfer in bacteria, they have recently applied the same method to see how the borrowing of words affects [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Testing common ancestry to all modern-day life &#124; Code for Life</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/loom/2008/07/17/festooning-the-tree-of-life/comment-page-1/#comment-30910</link>
		<dc:creator>Testing common ancestry to all modern-day life &#124; Code for Life</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 May 2010 10:27:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] the last few years* in particular there has been a lot of commentary that horizontal transfer (HGT) present in bacterial species may indicate that present-day life may [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Yet-Another-Genome Syndrome &#124; The Loom &#124; Discover Magazine</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/loom/2008/07/17/festooning-the-tree-of-life/comment-page-1/#comment-30141</link>
		<dc:creator>Yet-Another-Genome Syndrome &#124; The Loom &#124; Discover Magazine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Apr 2010 15:15:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] of life. Thanks to the hundreds of genomes of microbes scientists can now compare, for example, they can see how the history of life is, in some ways, more like a web than a tree. Insights like these are newsworthy. The sequencing of those genomes, on its own, is [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] of life. Thanks to the hundreds of genomes of microbes scientists can now compare, for example, they can see how the history of life is, in some ways, more like a web than a tree. Insights like these are newsworthy. The sequencing of those genomes, on its own, is [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Introducing The Quark, A Prize For Science Blogs &#124; The Loom &#124; Discover Magazine</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/loom/2008/07/17/festooning-the-tree-of-life/comment-page-1/#comment-18801</link>
		<dc:creator>Introducing The Quark, A Prize For Science Blogs &#124; The Loom &#124; Discover Magazine</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: Darwin re-visited - Page 55 - Science Forums</title>
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		<dc:creator>Darwin re-visited - Page 55 - Science Forums</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jan 2009 16:43:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Posted by Zimmer  Festooning The Tree Of Life &#124; The Loom &#124; Discover Magazine Bacteria and other single-celled microbes make up much more of life&#8217;s genetic diversity, and [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Posted by Zimmer  Festooning The Tree Of Life | The Loom | Discover Magazine Bacteria and other single-celled microbes make up much more of life&#8217;s genetic diversity, and [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Darwin re-visited - Page 55 - Science Forums</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/loom/2008/07/17/festooning-the-tree-of-life/comment-page-1/#comment-14060</link>
		<dc:creator>Darwin re-visited - Page 55 - Science Forums</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jan 2009 01:52:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Posted by Zimmer  Festooning The Tree Of Life &#124; The Loom &#124; Discover Magazine Bacteria and other single-celled microbes make up much more of life</description>
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		<title>By: Torbjörn Larsson, OM</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/loom/2008/07/17/festooning-the-tree-of-life/comment-page-1/#comment-8830</link>
		<dc:creator>Torbjörn Larsson, OM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Aug 2008 23:59:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Life intervened, but finally returning to old threads FWIW:

&lt;blockquote&gt;
is there still a prediction that can be made, or does it become an unfalsifiable mess?
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I think that is debated, but molecular phylogenies are perhaps testable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Life intervened, but finally returning to old threads FWIW:</p>
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is there still a prediction that can be made, or does it become an unfalsifiable mess?
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<p>I think that is debated, but molecular phylogenies are perhaps testable.</p>
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		<title>By: Lars</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/loom/2008/07/17/festooning-the-tree-of-life/comment-page-1/#comment-8401</link>
		<dc:creator>Lars</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 12:04:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On a related note...

One of the pieces of evidence for evolution,  claimed as a successful prediction of the &quot;new synthesis&quot;, has been the tree of life, in the sense that phylogenies derived from both genetic and morphological data are supposed to match each other.

In the case of a mangrove/DAG/Gordian knot of horizontal gene transfer, is there still a prediction that can be made, or does it become an unfalsifiable mess?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On a related note&#8230;</p>
<p>One of the pieces of evidence for evolution,  claimed as a successful prediction of the &#8220;new synthesis&#8221;, has been the tree of life, in the sense that phylogenies derived from both genetic and morphological data are supposed to match each other.</p>
<p>In the case of a mangrove/DAG/Gordian knot of horizontal gene transfer, is there still a prediction that can be made, or does it become an unfalsifiable mess?</p>
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		<title>By: Lars</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/loom/2008/07/17/festooning-the-tree-of-life/comment-page-1/#comment-8400</link>
		<dc:creator>Lars</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 11:57:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Assuming genes aren’t being traded backwards in time, ... It’s a directed acyclic graph, or DAG. &quot;

Note that this change of metaphor also requires changing the mapping from metaphor to reality. In Darwin&#039;s tree, each node (or equivalently, each node&#039;s parent branch) represents a species or clade. In the DAG, if each node represented a species, the graph would be cyclic, since species A can transfer genes to species B and vice versa. In order to have a DAG as you suggest, each node must represent one end of a gene-transfer event, i.e. we must have a new node (at least on the recipient side?) wherever a gene transfer occurs. It doesn&#039;t appear that Dagan et al have constructed their drawing that way... the y axis only represents descent, and time by implication.

An interesting prediction of this model would be that a DAG *exists*, that can account for all the evident gene transfers, i.e. without going backward in time. Whether that&#039;s a trivial condition to meet or not, I don&#039;t know.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Assuming genes aren’t being traded backwards in time, &#8230; It’s a directed acyclic graph, or DAG. &#8221;</p>
<p>Note that this change of metaphor also requires changing the mapping from metaphor to reality. In Darwin&#8217;s tree, each node (or equivalently, each node&#8217;s parent branch) represents a species or clade. In the DAG, if each node represented a species, the graph would be cyclic, since species A can transfer genes to species B and vice versa. In order to have a DAG as you suggest, each node must represent one end of a gene-transfer event, i.e. we must have a new node (at least on the recipient side?) wherever a gene transfer occurs. It doesn&#8217;t appear that Dagan et al have constructed their drawing that way&#8230; the y axis only represents descent, and time by implication.</p>
<p>An interesting prediction of this model would be that a DAG *exists*, that can account for all the evident gene transfers, i.e. without going backward in time. Whether that&#8217;s a trivial condition to meet or not, I don&#8217;t know.</p>
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		<title>By: Torbjörn Larsson, OM</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/loom/2008/07/17/festooning-the-tree-of-life/comment-page-1/#comment-7089</link>
		<dc:creator>Torbjörn Larsson, OM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jul 2008 20:50:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;
this tree bush mangrove thicket Gordian knot
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Yeess... but if the most recognizable feature (that of tending to a single lateral transfer) is of the process, not of its outcome, it would IMHO be best if the new metaphor describes that instead.

Janne is then closer with his DAG description, but it is general as a metaphor. 

As a process this reminds me of &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canopy_formation&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;parachute canopy formation (formation involving a state change of the parachute, somewhat analogous to the lateral transfer)&lt;/a&gt;. (And as a picture it reminds me of tree canopies mixing, keeping some connection to the earlier logic, as well as the earlier metaphor specifically.)  

So the &quot;canopy [formation] of life&quot;, perhaps?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>
this tree bush mangrove thicket Gordian knot
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<p>Yeess&#8230; but if the most recognizable feature (that of tending to a single lateral transfer) is of the process, not of its outcome, it would IMHO be best if the new metaphor describes that instead.</p>
<p>Janne is then closer with his DAG description, but it is general as a metaphor. </p>
<p>As a process this reminds me of <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canopy_formation" rel="nofollow">parachute canopy formation (formation involving a state change of the parachute, somewhat analogous to the lateral transfer)</a>. (And as a picture it reminds me of tree canopies mixing, keeping some connection to the earlier logic, as well as the earlier metaphor specifically.)  </p>
<p>So the &#8220;canopy [formation] of life&#8221;, perhaps?</p>
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		<title>By: John S. Wilkins</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/loom/2008/07/17/festooning-the-tree-of-life/comment-page-1/#comment-7069</link>
		<dc:creator>John S. Wilkins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jul 2008 03:03:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>amphiox - there is a theory called the Core Genome Hypothesis, also known as the &quot;housekeeping genes&quot; hypothesis, that a set of microbial genes are crucial to the very functioning of the microbe and hence are hard to swap and hard to lose. Although there are exceptions, this seems robust enough to explain why some microbial species remain coherent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>amphiox &#8211; there is a theory called the Core Genome Hypothesis, also known as the &#8220;housekeeping genes&#8221; hypothesis, that a set of microbial genes are crucial to the very functioning of the microbe and hence are hard to swap and hard to lose. Although there are exceptions, this seems robust enough to explain why some microbial species remain coherent.</p>
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		<title>By: News &#187; Lateral gene transfer and the history of life</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/loom/2008/07/17/festooning-the-tree-of-life/comment-page-1/#comment-7065</link>
		<dc:creator>News &#187; Lateral gene transfer and the history of life</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jul 2008 01:07:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Festooning The Tree Of Life. Carl Zimmer describes new research on lateral gene transfer which makes the Tree of Life look more like a Gordian Knot. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Festooning The Tree Of Life. Carl Zimmer describes new research on lateral gene transfer which makes the Tree of Life look more like a Gordian Knot. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Lateral gene transfer and the history of life</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/loom/2008/07/17/festooning-the-tree-of-life/comment-page-1/#comment-7046</link>
		<dc:creator>Lateral gene transfer and the history of life</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jul 2008 22:42:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] gene transfer and the history of life     Festooning The Tree Of Life. Carl Zimmer describes new research on lateral gene transfer which makes the Tree of Life look more [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Tsjok45</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/loom/2008/07/17/festooning-the-tree-of-life/comment-page-1/#comment-7026</link>
		<dc:creator>Tsjok45</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jul 2008 20:59:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah yes ;
the web of life  on this  planet  :
It&#039;s still a &quot; primal soup &quot;of all kinds of genes  ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah yes ;<br />
the web of life  on this  planet  :<br />
It&#8217;s still a &#8221; primal soup &#8220;of all kinds of genes  ?</p>
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		<title>By: amphiox</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/loom/2008/07/17/festooning-the-tree-of-life/comment-page-1/#comment-6971</link>
		<dc:creator>amphiox</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jul 2008 02:49:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What could possibly trap a gene in vertical descent after it has made one jump? Is it something to do with the mechanisms by which genes make the jump? Or is it a statistical thing, that is, the probability of a gene jumping and surviving (both being retained by the recipient, and the recipient lineage surviving to the present day) low enough that on average each gene observed to jump has only jumped once.

Are there any genes at all that have been confirmed to have jumped more than once?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What could possibly trap a gene in vertical descent after it has made one jump? Is it something to do with the mechanisms by which genes make the jump? Or is it a statistical thing, that is, the probability of a gene jumping and surviving (both being retained by the recipient, and the recipient lineage surviving to the present day) low enough that on average each gene observed to jump has only jumped once.</p>
<p>Are there any genes at all that have been confirmed to have jumped more than once?</p>
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		<title>By: Eric Johnson</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/loom/2008/07/17/festooning-the-tree-of-life/comment-page-1/#comment-6958</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric Johnson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 23:35:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The concept of lateral gene transfer reminds me of David Quammen&#039;s recent article in Harper&#039;s about contagious cancer (http://www.harpers.org/archive/2008/04/0081988). For instance, about Canine Transmissible Venereal Tumor in domestic dogs, Quammen writes:

&quot;Tumor cells in Dog B, Dog C, Dog D, and Dog Z are more closely related to each other than those cells are to the dogs they respectively inhabit.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The concept of lateral gene transfer reminds me of David Quammen&#8217;s recent article in Harper&#8217;s about contagious cancer (<a href="http://www.harpers.org/archive/2008/04/0081988" rel="nofollow">http://www.harpers.org/archive/2008/04/0081988</a>). For instance, about Canine Transmissible Venereal Tumor in domestic dogs, Quammen writes:</p>
<p>&#8220;Tumor cells in Dog B, Dog C, Dog D, and Dog Z are more closely related to each other than those cells are to the dogs they respectively inhabit.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Sven DiMilo</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/loom/2008/07/17/festooning-the-tree-of-life/comment-page-1/#comment-6955</link>
		<dc:creator>Sven DiMilo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 20:11:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Please help me out with this one:
&lt;blockquote&gt;Next, the scientists identified genes that are found in a tuft of branches, as well as to a single living species. &lt;/blockquote&gt;
From context, I&#039;m guessing it should read &quot;...as well as in a single living species on a distant branch,&quot; or something like that. If not, please explain.
thx
&lt;em&gt;
[Carl: You inferred rightly. I&#039;ve tweaked the post. I hope that&#039;s clearer now.]&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please help me out with this one:</p>
<blockquote><p>Next, the scientists identified genes that are found in a tuft of branches, as well as to a single living species. </p></blockquote>
<p>From context, I&#8217;m guessing it should read &#8220;&#8230;as well as in a single living species on a distant branch,&#8221; or something like that. If not, please explain.<br />
thx<br />
<em><br />
[Carl: You inferred rightly. I've tweaked the post. I hope that's clearer now.]</em></p>
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		<title>By: Greg</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/loom/2008/07/17/festooning-the-tree-of-life/comment-page-1/#comment-6953</link>
		<dc:creator>Greg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 13:54:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You heard it here first.  Microbial evolution is a &quot;cloud&quot; of life rather than a &quot;tree&quot; of life.  Heh.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You heard it here first.  Microbial evolution is a &#8220;cloud&#8221; of life rather than a &#8220;tree&#8221; of life.  Heh.</p>
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		<title>By: Janne</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/loom/2008/07/17/festooning-the-tree-of-life/comment-page-1/#comment-6943</link>
		<dc:creator>Janne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 04:31:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Assuming genes aren&#039;t being traded backwards in time, it&#039;s not a bush, or a thicket, or a Gordian knot. It&#039;s a &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Directed_acyclic_graph&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;directed acyclic graph&lt;/a&gt;, or DAG. Of course &quot;The Great DAG of Life&quot; doesn&#039;t quite have the same ring to it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Assuming genes aren&#8217;t being traded backwards in time, it&#8217;s not a bush, or a thicket, or a Gordian knot. It&#8217;s a <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Directed_acyclic_graph" rel="nofollow">directed acyclic graph</a>, or DAG. Of course &#8220;The Great DAG of Life&#8221; doesn&#8217;t quite have the same ring to it.</p>
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		<title>By: Doug</title>
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		<dc:creator>Doug</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jul 2008 22:32:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Carl,

&lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horizontal_gene_transfer&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt; Horizontal gene transfer &lt;/a&gt; is advocated by Carl Woese. Wikipedia uses a diagram of a &quot;Phylogenetic tree showing high rates of horizontal gene transfer between organisms.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Carl,</p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horizontal_gene_transfer" rel="nofollow"> Horizontal gene transfer </a> is advocated by Carl Woese. Wikipedia uses a diagram of a &#8220;Phylogenetic tree showing high rates of horizontal gene transfer between organisms.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: EastwoodDC</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/loom/2008/07/17/festooning-the-tree-of-life/comment-page-1/#comment-6925</link>
		<dc:creator>EastwoodDC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jul 2008 19:45:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It looks a bit like a Sno Cone to me (http://www.abfnj.com/extras.htm)
&quot;The Sno Cone of Life&quot; just doesn&#039;t have that nice ring to it though, and I doubt it will catch on. ;)

Now a serious question: Are there any similar estimates for viral transfer of DNA with eukaryotes? In your book you mention this is a rare sort of gene transfer. How rare is it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It looks a bit like a Sno Cone to me (<a href="http://www.abfnj.com/extras.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.abfnj.com/extras.htm</a>)<br />
&#8220;The Sno Cone of Life&#8221; just doesn&#8217;t have that nice ring to it though, and I doubt it will catch on. <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/loom/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Now a serious question: Are there any similar estimates for viral transfer of DNA with eukaryotes? In your book you mention this is a rare sort of gene transfer. How rare is it?</p>
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