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	<title>Comments on: Teach The Lizard Overlord Controversy</title>
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		<title>By: skinman</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/loom/2009/10/29/teach-the-lizard-overlord-controversy/comment-page-1/#comment-26861</link>
		<dc:creator>skinman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 19:02:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ugh.  Why does my state accumulate so many loons?  Balloon Boy&#039;s Parents, Ward Churchill, Horn, Ted Haggard.  The list goes on but it is too depressing for me to continue.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ugh.  Why does my state accumulate so many loons?  Balloon Boy&#8217;s Parents, Ward Churchill, Horn, Ted Haggard.  The list goes on but it is too depressing for me to continue.</p>
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		<title>By: Oroboros</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/loom/2009/10/29/teach-the-lizard-overlord-controversy/comment-page-1/#comment-26859</link>
		<dc:creator>Oroboros</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 18:44:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good point there Matt. If schools should teach all the theories of creation, then &lt;a HREF=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zecharia_Sitchin&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Sitchin&lt;/A&gt; gets his slice of time too, and that means the kids have to learn a bit of Sumerian history.

Of course, that wikipedia article claims his translations have been generally found wrong. I haven&#039;t seriously followed up on the citations yet, but someone felt strongly enough to &lt;a HREF=&quot;http://www.sitchiniswrong.com/sitchin&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;register a whole domain to point out how wrong he is&lt;/A&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good point there Matt. If schools should teach all the theories of creation, then <a HREF="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zecharia_Sitchin" rel="nofollow">Sitchin</a> gets his slice of time too, and that means the kids have to learn a bit of Sumerian history.</p>
<p>Of course, that wikipedia article claims his translations have been generally found wrong. I haven&#8217;t seriously followed up on the citations yet, but someone felt strongly enough to <a HREF="http://www.sitchiniswrong.com/sitchin" rel="nofollow">register a whole domain to point out how wrong he is</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/loom/2009/10/29/teach-the-lizard-overlord-controversy/comment-page-1/#comment-26852</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 15:35:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s a hobby of mine to stay up to date on all the latest conspiracy nut-cases. I&#039;ve spent untold hours reading this stuff, and I have to say it makes for some fantastic storytelling. The lizard-overlord people are kind of a minority fringe themselves, even within the fringe community. But having immersed myself in their &quot;theories&quot;, it&#039;s a *little* less absurd than it appears on the face of it. Certainly doesn&#039;t hold a candle to, say, scientology. Not sure if that&#039;s a comfort to you, Kitty, but, these people at least do volumes of, I hesitate to say &quot;research&quot;, but I can&#039;t find a better word. I mean, hours and hours looking into historical myths and gods, drawing connections between Quetzacotl and Egyptology and Grendl and whatnot. I kind of have a grudging respect for that. I mean, at least they&#039;re reading, right?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s a hobby of mine to stay up to date on all the latest conspiracy nut-cases. I&#8217;ve spent untold hours reading this stuff, and I have to say it makes for some fantastic storytelling. The lizard-overlord people are kind of a minority fringe themselves, even within the fringe community. But having immersed myself in their &#8220;theories&#8221;, it&#8217;s a *little* less absurd than it appears on the face of it. Certainly doesn&#8217;t hold a candle to, say, scientology. Not sure if that&#8217;s a comfort to you, Kitty, but, these people at least do volumes of, I hesitate to say &#8220;research&#8221;, but I can&#8217;t find a better word. I mean, hours and hours looking into historical myths and gods, drawing connections between Quetzacotl and Egyptology and Grendl and whatnot. I kind of have a grudging respect for that. I mean, at least they&#8217;re reading, right?</p>
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		<title>By: Noel</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/loom/2009/10/29/teach-the-lizard-overlord-controversy/comment-page-1/#comment-26844</link>
		<dc:creator>Noel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 03:26:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Reminds me of when the &#039;girlfriend&#039; joined up with the guitarist in SpinalTap; just so much woo, inspired by the love of a woman...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reminds me of when the &#8216;girlfriend&#8217; joined up with the guitarist in SpinalTap; just so much woo, inspired by the love of a woman&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Joseph J. Steinberg</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/loom/2009/10/29/teach-the-lizard-overlord-controversy/comment-page-1/#comment-26843</link>
		<dc:creator>Joseph J. Steinberg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 01:28:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Aside from the whack factor here - and, thanks for the laugh - I wondered how a married man could seriously decide to quit his prestigious job and become a professional crackpot. So, I ask, anyone, just how lucrative is a career in woo these days? I&#039;m not talking about what James Randi does, but rather 100% crackpot charlatans.

I also have to wince at the references to Asian woo. Americans have the silliest notion of anything that&#039;s not Christianity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aside from the whack factor here &#8211; and, thanks for the laugh &#8211; I wondered how a married man could seriously decide to quit his prestigious job and become a professional crackpot. So, I ask, anyone, just how lucrative is a career in woo these days? I&#8217;m not talking about what James Randi does, but rather 100% crackpot charlatans.</p>
<p>I also have to wince at the references to Asian woo. Americans have the silliest notion of anything that&#8217;s not Christianity.</p>
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		<title>By: Kitty'sBitch</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kitty'sBitch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 22:34:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The first time I stumbled across this reptilian thing, I naturally assumed that it was a joke.
To be honest, my brain still won&#039;t allow me to accept that people believe it. I know that some do, but I&#039;m not strong enough to confront that fact. I just bury the knowledge in the dark recesses of my mind and let it fester.
There&#039;s no place like home...there&#039;s no place like home...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The first time I stumbled across this reptilian thing, I naturally assumed that it was a joke.<br />
To be honest, my brain still won&#8217;t allow me to accept that people believe it. I know that some do, but I&#8217;m not strong enough to confront that fact. I just bury the knowledge in the dark recesses of my mind and let it fester.<br />
There&#8217;s no place like home&#8230;there&#8217;s no place like home&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Ben Zimmer</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/loom/2009/10/29/teach-the-lizard-overlord-controversy/comment-page-1/#comment-26841</link>
		<dc:creator>Ben Zimmer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 21:38:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wasn&#039;t Icke also responsible for &lt;a href=&quot;http://gawker.com/5385015/balloon-boy-just-wanted-to-warn-us-about-the-lizard-people&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Balloon Boy&lt;/a&gt;?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wasn&#8217;t Icke also responsible for <a href="http://gawker.com/5385015/balloon-boy-just-wanted-to-warn-us-about-the-lizard-people" rel="nofollow">Balloon Boy</a>?</p>
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		<title>By: Oroboros</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/loom/2009/10/29/teach-the-lizard-overlord-controversy/comment-page-1/#comment-26840</link>
		<dc:creator>Oroboros</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 21:19:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My problem with Icke is the &lt;a HREF = &quot;http://www.davidicke.com/content/view/25191&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;vaccine scaremongering&lt;/A&gt;. If these were just private beliefs that didn&#039;t affect public health, I probably wouldn&#039;t care about him as much.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My problem with Icke is the <a HREF = "http://www.davidicke.com/content/view/25191" rel="nofollow">vaccine scaremongering</a>. If these were just private beliefs that didn&#8217;t affect public health, I probably wouldn&#8217;t care about him as much.</p>
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		<title>By: Joshua Zelinsky</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/loom/2009/10/29/teach-the-lizard-overlord-controversy/comment-page-1/#comment-26839</link>
		<dc:creator>Joshua Zelinsky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 21:17:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmm, he got his PhD at Yale. Seems a bit similar to Jonathan Wells, the ID advocate. 

Why does my alma mater keep churning out these people?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmm, he got his PhD at Yale. Seems a bit similar to Jonathan Wells, the ID advocate. </p>
<p>Why does my alma mater keep churning out these people?</p>
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		<title>By: Romeo Vitelli</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/loom/2009/10/29/teach-the-lizard-overlord-controversy/comment-page-1/#comment-26838</link>
		<dc:creator>Romeo Vitelli</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 21:03:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I always liked Icke.   He has a way of making his crazy ideas sound plausible.  Especially when he accused George Bush of secretly being an evil reptilian alien seeking to dominate the Earth.  I can&#039;t be the only to suspect that Icke may be right about that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I always liked Icke.   He has a way of making his crazy ideas sound plausible.  Especially when he accused George Bush of secretly being an evil reptilian alien seeking to dominate the Earth.  I can&#8217;t be the only to suspect that Icke may be right about that.</p>
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		<title>By: Oroboros</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/loom/2009/10/29/teach-the-lizard-overlord-controversy/comment-page-1/#comment-26837</link>
		<dc:creator>Oroboros</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 20:59:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>*sigh*

This calls for the &lt;a HREF = &quot;http://www.fallen-legion.eu/news/data/upimages/DoubleFacePalm.jpg&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Star Trek Double FacePalm&lt;/A&gt; AND a &lt;a HREF=&quot;http://360.kombo.com/images/content/news/blurb_facepalm2_20090622.jpg&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Bear Double FacePalm&lt;/A&gt;.

I didn&#039;t see any mention of Icke&#039;s name, but that&#039;s what it sounds like to me.

I liked this part at the end:

&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;
Though he is not a UFO expert, Chambers said he considered the speakers legitimate due to the scope and organization of the convention.

&quot;It&#039;s not like a couple of yahoos sitting in their van.&quot; 
&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>*sigh*</p>
<p>This calls for the <a HREF = "http://www.fallen-legion.eu/news/data/upimages/DoubleFacePalm.jpg" rel="nofollow">Star Trek Double FacePalm</a> AND a <a HREF="http://360.kombo.com/images/content/news/blurb_facepalm2_20090622.jpg" rel="nofollow">Bear Double FacePalm</a>.</p>
<p>I didn&#8217;t see any mention of Icke&#8217;s name, but that&#8217;s what it sounds like to me.</p>
<p>I liked this part at the end:</p>
<blockquote><p>
Though he is not a UFO expert, Chambers said he considered the speakers legitimate due to the scope and organization of the convention.</p>
<p>&#8220;It&#8217;s not like a couple of yahoos sitting in their van.&#8221;
</p></blockquote>
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