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		<title>By: Saltklypa #6 &#8211; Om cold reading og døde fugler &#124; Saltklypa</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/loom/2010/05/20/synthetic-genome-natural-cell-new-life/#comment-14280</link>
		<dc:creator>Saltklypa #6 &#8211; Om cold reading og døde fugler &#124; Saltklypa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Jan 2011 21:49:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] liv: ted.com (video) discovermagazine.com [...] </description>
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		<title>By: And On The Fourth Day, Venter Said, Let There Be A Press Release &#171; Around The Sphere</title>
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		<dc:creator>And On The Fourth Day, Venter Said, Let There Be A Press Release &#171; Around The Sphere</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 May 2010 10:36:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Carl Zimmer at Discover Magazine: Anyway–this news just hit the wires thanks to an embargo break, so I don’t have time to go into more detail. Joe Palca at NPR has posted his article on the subject. For background, please check out these stories I’ve written about this general area of research: [...] </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Carl Zimmer at Discover Magazine: Anyway–this news just hit the wires thanks to an embargo break, so I don’t have time to go into more detail. Joe Palca at NPR has posted his article on the subject. For background, please check out these stories I’ve written about this general area of research: [...] </p>
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		<title>By: “To live, to err, to fall, to triumph, to recreate life out of life.” &#171; BREADBOARD</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/loom/2010/05/20/synthetic-genome-natural-cell-new-life/#comment-14278</link>
		<dc:creator>“To live, to err, to fall, to triumph, to recreate life out of life.” &#171; BREADBOARD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 May 2010 02:48:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] live, to err, to fall, to triumph, to recreate life out of life.”  The new synthetic cell carries a line from James Joyce&#8217;s, A Portrait of the Artist as a Young Man. Inscribed in its [...] </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] live, to err, to fall, to triumph, to recreate life out of life.”  The new synthetic cell carries a line from James Joyce&#8217;s, A Portrait of the Artist as a Young Man. Inscribed in its [...] </p>
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		<title>By: Bespoke Life ! &#124; Arbiitians Unplugged</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/loom/2010/05/20/synthetic-genome-natural-cell-new-life/#comment-14277</link>
		<dc:creator>Bespoke Life ! &#124; Arbiitians Unplugged</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 May 2010 09:57:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] PS: I would recommend the following sources if anyone is interested &#8211; See the Venter Institute press release, discussion in Nature (pdf), more discussion at Edge, and some background from Carl Zimmer. . [...] </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] PS: I would recommend the following sources if anyone is interested &#8211; See the Venter Institute press release, discussion in Nature (pdf), more discussion at Edge, and some background from Carl Zimmer. . [...] </p>
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		<title>By: Anchor</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/loom/2010/05/20/synthetic-genome-natural-cell-new-life/#comment-14276</link>
		<dc:creator>Anchor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 May 2010 08:56:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nature - which has performed much more extravagant feats countless times (and probably not just on our itty bitty world) without ever having to even think about it - yawns.

Of course, nature has no purpose, no thinking capacity, and no recognizable reason or capacity for &quot;yawning&quot;, but in the minds of the Ped-Protectors in the Vatican, who see fit to &quot;warn&quot; scientists not to &quot;play&quot; what they refer to as &quot;God&quot;. (A non-existent turf SOME of them would actually defend to the death...given the slightest opportunity, most of them would bolt for even RANCID meat like hyenas).

This is definitely a fantastic accomplishment, no doubt. I&#039;m just astonished it took this long to accomplish it.

Now, I fervently look forward to ordering up a deliciously thick and juicy &quot;steak&quot;, complete with complex muscle-like tissue invested with everything from lymph to blood vessels, well marbled by fat, derived from an appropriately flavorful complex of multiplying cells WITHOUT those parts that typically must attend such fare today, which I do NOT require to eat, but if I did nevertheless requires the slaughtering and suffering of a sentient animal. And I&#039;ll savor it with spices and with gravy and dumplings etc...and never EVER have to argue with a religious or vegger imbecile again as I savor the juices of myriad proteins and fat I need not ever again attribute to the death of anything more than artificially contrived tissue utterly unassociated with anything attached to the salient reason for suffering.

Or does the Pope think it ungodly to relieve suffering whenever possible? Or do humans (especially Christian humans) have a monopoly on the horrors of suffering too?

(Pardon me as I pause to slurp up the rest of a delectablly MEATY dish...flavored with mushrooms and sage).

The Pope, his poppets, and their fantasy faith are an absolute and consummate disgrace to human civilization for imagining that this could lead to a tradition of &quot;playing God&quot;. What, after all, have THOSE bastards PRIMARILY ALWAYS been up to for the last 2000 years? Playing Penocle?

However, they need not fear that I selectively pick on them unfairly: I firmly believe that their schtick is entirely equivalent to every other ridiculous excuse of a world view based on supernatural premises...even if the Roman Catholic authorities do happen to have an excessive penchant for protecting their interest in pedophilia while simultaneously exercising an astonishing audacity in continuing to dictate graceful and virtuous behavior in others, in particular, &quot;WARNING&quot; scientists not to play God.

And, while I have far more patience and sympathy reserved for my vegetarian friends (me being one of them as conditions reasonably permit) they may find solace in a future where they can finally put their smirks away, retire their superior attitude, shut the hell up without ever having to wreck another person&#039;s meal, and enjoy some enormously tasty food (for a change) invested with some forms of nutrition rumored to be capable of actually improving their powers of thinking - with the full knowledge that not a single complex nervous system ever needed to suffer the experience of death.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nature &#8211; which has performed much more extravagant feats countless times (and probably not just on our itty bitty world) without ever having to even think about it &#8211; yawns.</p>
<p>Of course, nature has no purpose, no thinking capacity, and no recognizable reason or capacity for &#8220;yawning&#8221;, but in the minds of the Ped-Protectors in the Vatican, who see fit to &#8220;warn&#8221; scientists not to &#8220;play&#8221; what they refer to as &#8220;God&#8221;. (A non-existent turf SOME of them would actually defend to the death&#8230;given the slightest opportunity, most of them would bolt for even RANCID meat like hyenas).</p>
<p>This is definitely a fantastic accomplishment, no doubt. I&#8217;m just astonished it took this long to accomplish it.</p>
<p>Now, I fervently look forward to ordering up a deliciously thick and juicy &#8220;steak&#8221;, complete with complex muscle-like tissue invested with everything from lymph to blood vessels, well marbled by fat, derived from an appropriately flavorful complex of multiplying cells WITHOUT those parts that typically must attend such fare today, which I do NOT require to eat, but if I did nevertheless requires the slaughtering and suffering of a sentient animal. And I&#8217;ll savor it with spices and with gravy and dumplings etc&#8230;and never EVER have to argue with a religious or vegger imbecile again as I savor the juices of myriad proteins and fat I need not ever again attribute to the death of anything more than artificially contrived tissue utterly unassociated with anything attached to the salient reason for suffering.</p>
<p>Or does the Pope think it ungodly to relieve suffering whenever possible? Or do humans (especially Christian humans) have a monopoly on the horrors of suffering too?</p>
<p>(Pardon me as I pause to slurp up the rest of a delectablly MEATY dish&#8230;flavored with mushrooms and sage).</p>
<p>The Pope, his poppets, and their fantasy faith are an absolute and consummate disgrace to human civilization for imagining that this could lead to a tradition of &#8220;playing God&#8221;. What, after all, have THOSE bastards PRIMARILY ALWAYS been up to for the last 2000 years? Playing Penocle?</p>
<p>However, they need not fear that I selectively pick on them unfairly: I firmly believe that their schtick is entirely equivalent to every other ridiculous excuse of a world view based on supernatural premises&#8230;even if the Roman Catholic authorities do happen to have an excessive penchant for protecting their interest in pedophilia while simultaneously exercising an astonishing audacity in continuing to dictate graceful and virtuous behavior in others, in particular, &#8220;WARNING&#8221; scientists not to play God.</p>
<p>And, while I have far more patience and sympathy reserved for my vegetarian friends (me being one of them as conditions reasonably permit) they may find solace in a future where they can finally put their smirks away, retire their superior attitude, shut the hell up without ever having to wreck another person&#8217;s meal, and enjoy some enormously tasty food (for a change) invested with some forms of nutrition rumored to be capable of actually improving their powers of thinking &#8211; with the full knowledge that not a single complex nervous system ever needed to suffer the experience of death.</p>
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		<title>By: The first self-replicating artificial cell created &#171; Biosphere</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/loom/2010/05/20/synthetic-genome-natural-cell-new-life/#comment-14275</link>
		<dc:creator>The first self-replicating artificial cell created &#171; Biosphere</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 May 2010 00:32:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Reading list suggested by Carl Zimmer. [...] </description>
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		<title>By: Ken Pidcock</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/loom/2010/05/20/synthetic-genome-natural-cell-new-life/#comment-14274</link>
		<dc:creator>Ken Pidcock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 May 2010 00:13:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While this isn&#039;t a scientific breakthrough, in that we don&#039;t know anything new about nature, it is an &lt;i&gt;engineering&lt;/i&gt; breakthrough of the highest calibre.

I&#039;ve long been a Venter fan, finding his fully justified arrogance highly entertaining. It&#039;s a great business story as well as a scientific one. And Steve Jobs will never pull a &quot;one more thing&quot; like the &lt;i&gt;Mycoplasma genitalium&lt;/i&gt; genome.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While this isn&#8217;t a scientific breakthrough, in that we don&#8217;t know anything new about nature, it is an <i>engineering</i> breakthrough of the highest calibre.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve long been a Venter fan, finding his fully justified arrogance highly entertaining. It&#8217;s a great business story as well as a scientific one. And Steve Jobs will never pull a &#8220;one more thing&#8221; like the <i>Mycoplasma genitalium</i> genome.</p>
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		<title>By: Janet</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/loom/2010/05/20/synthetic-genome-natural-cell-new-life/#comment-14273</link>
		<dc:creator>Janet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 May 2010 22:04:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>According to the paper, they didn&#039;t remove the DNA from the host cell before transplanting in the &quot;donor&quot; DNA. Instead, they manipulated the methylation patterns and restriction systems of host and donor so that the host DNA was recognized as foreign by the donor DNA, while the donor DNA was not recognized as foreign by the host DNA -- so the donor DNA destroyed the host DNA and took over the cell.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>According to the paper, they didn&#8217;t remove the DNA from the host cell before transplanting in the &#8220;donor&#8221; DNA. Instead, they manipulated the methylation patterns and restriction systems of host and donor so that the host DNA was recognized as foreign by the donor DNA, while the donor DNA was not recognized as foreign by the host DNA &#8212; so the donor DNA destroyed the host DNA and took over the cell.</p>
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		<title>By: Synthetic Life! &#171; just a little common sense</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/loom/2010/05/20/synthetic-genome-natural-cell-new-life/#comment-14272</link>
		<dc:creator>Synthetic Life! &#171; just a little common sense</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 May 2010 20:02:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] a huge milestone on the way there. For more information, check out the coverage of PZ Myers and Carl Zimmer           Leave a [...] </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] a huge milestone on the way there. For more information, check out the coverage of PZ Myers and Carl Zimmer           Leave a [...] </p>
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		<title>By: James Joyce&#8217;s Words Come To Life, And Are Promptly Desecrated &#124; The Loom &#124; Discover Magazine</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/loom/2010/05/20/synthetic-genome-natural-cell-new-life/#comment-14271</link>
		<dc:creator>James Joyce&#8217;s Words Come To Life, And Are Promptly Desecrated &#124; The Loom &#124; Discover Magazine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 May 2010 17:51:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Blogs / The Loom        &#171; Synthetic Genome+Natural Cell=New Life? [...] </description>
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