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By: johnk

johnk — Sat, 30 Oct 2010 02:19:31 +0000

Again, interesting stuff. I’ll chase this down more carefully over the weekend, but a few comments:

1. The Biederman paper doesn’t address brain storage capacity in terms of neurons. Its based on estimates of the number of visually discriminable object categories. It is also attempting to decode visual-object primitives. A category would seem to be a nameable thing. Its also based on guesses about how many new objects could be learned in an individual’s lifetime. For example, learning 4 per day would lead to a number of about this magnitude.

2. Its interesting that all of these neurons are in regions that are NOT neocortex, mostly in the hippocampus*. This seems to be a change for Koch: in “Quest for Consciousness” he speculates that the hippocampus is not part of the consciousness network. The recency effects shown by Fried’s subjects suggest an interesting relation between the hippocampus and recent memory.

(* I’m a hippocampal/place cell person)

By: natselrox

natselrox — Fri, 29 Oct 2010 04:13:54 +0000

The 10k-30k figure does still sound a little odd.

Go, Koch!

By: Daniel J. Andrews

Daniel J. Andrews — Thu, 28 Oct 2010 23:58:34 +0000

Probably just me, but not sure I’d want someone with a name like Fried doing brain surgery on me.

By: gaddeswarup

gaddeswarup — Thu, 28 Oct 2010 06:06:05 +0000

For Biederman’s paper try
http://wexler.free.fr/library/files/biederman%20%281987%29%20recognition-by-components.%20a%20theory%20of%20human%20image%20understanding.pdf
or google.

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By: Blake Stacey

Blake Stacey — Wed, 27 Oct 2010 23:15:27 +0000

Biederman (1987) is cited by Waydo et al. (2006) as providing the 10k-30k figure, and Waydo et al. (2006) is cited by Cerf et al. (2010).

By: Blake Stacey

Blake Stacey — Wed, 27 Oct 2010 23:13:17 +0000

Chasing citations, the 10k-30k figure seems to come from Biederman I (1987) Recognition-by-components: a theory of human image understanding. Psychol Rev 94:115–147, which I can't download.

By: Ed Yong

Ed Yong — Wed, 27 Oct 2010 22:11:58 +0000

I should probably just read the links but 10k-30k concepts sounds like quite a low number. How did they estimate storage capacity?

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A Brain-Machine Interface Built on Images of Marilyn Monroe | JetLib News — Wed, 27 Oct 2010 22:05:55 +0000

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