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	<title>Comments on: World Science Festival TV: Another afternoon shot</title>
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		<title>By: Bala</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/loom/2011/02/25/world-science-festival-tv-another-afternoon-shot/#comment-15724</link>
		<dc:creator>Bala</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Feb 2011 08:13:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There goes another week.</description>
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		<title>By: johnk</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/loom/2011/02/25/world-science-festival-tv-another-afternoon-shot/#comment-15723</link>
		<dc:creator>johnk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Feb 2011 18:52:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Warning: I&#039;m a neuroscientist and I&#039;ve spent long largely unproductive hours thinking about these questions.

I have mixed feelings about the videos (Tononi, Charlie Kaufman and Alan Alda). The main gripe is that almost nothing about consciousness is &quot;explained&quot; and no theory is presented — not even Tononi&#039;s. Tononi does a nice job of presenting interesting cases and experiments that make us ask what consciousness is, but these don&#039;t lead to towards answers.

Other comments. Tononi and others (Searle, Koch) say that we are not conscious when asleep. Isn&#039;t it better to say that a sleeping individual is an another state of consciousness? Certainly dreams have aspects of consciousness. And who knows if we aren&#039;t conscious continuously, but lacking memory storage?

Tononi also asks Alan Alda a strange and interesting question: who is more similar, your conscious state now and your state when you were 5 or your conscious state now and my conscious state? Although its not clear what he&#039;s getting at, he&#039;s  apparently trying to suggest that your consciousness cannot be the same as the consciousness when you were 5 because your brain&#039;s set of information is so different. But I think the answer goes a different direction. There cannot be consciousness without memory, and the sense of continuity, partially fabricated, of an autobiographical self.

Briefly, its hard to &#039;explain&#039; consciousness without a definition. And there are no definitions. This type of conversation typically promises more than it can deliver.</description>
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<p>I have mixed feelings about the videos (Tononi, Charlie Kaufman and Alan Alda). The main gripe is that almost nothing about consciousness is &#8220;explained&#8221; and no theory is presented — not even Tononi&#8217;s. Tononi does a nice job of presenting interesting cases and experiments that make us ask what consciousness is, but these don&#8217;t lead to towards answers.</p>
<p>Other comments. Tononi and others (Searle, Koch) say that we are not conscious when asleep. Isn&#8217;t it better to say that a sleeping individual is an another state of consciousness? Certainly dreams have aspects of consciousness. And who knows if we aren&#8217;t conscious continuously, but lacking memory storage?</p>
<p>Tononi also asks Alan Alda a strange and interesting question: who is more similar, your conscious state now and your state when you were 5 or your conscious state now and my conscious state? Although its not clear what he&#8217;s getting at, he&#8217;s  apparently trying to suggest that your consciousness cannot be the same as the consciousness when you were 5 because your brain&#8217;s set of information is so different. But I think the answer goes a different direction. There cannot be consciousness without memory, and the sense of continuity, partially fabricated, of an autobiographical self.</p>
<p>Briefly, its hard to &#8216;explain&#8217; consciousness without a definition. And there are no definitions. This type of conversation typically promises more than it can deliver.</p>
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		<title>By: the Tall Ape</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/loom/2011/02/25/world-science-festival-tv-another-afternoon-shot/#comment-15722</link>
		<dc:creator>the Tall Ape</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Feb 2011 22:52:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alda seems to be rushing Tononi, let the man speak - I assure you it&#039;s all fascinating!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alda seems to be rushing Tononi, let the man speak &#8211; I assure you it&#8217;s all fascinating!</p>
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		<title>By: Greg Boustead</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/loom/2011/02/25/world-science-festival-tv-another-afternoon-shot/#comment-15721</link>
		<dc:creator>Greg Boustead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Feb 2011 21:12:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, it&#039;s raining and gross out anyway (in the northeast). A good afternoon to put off work and snuggle up with some of your favorite scientists and thinkers ;)</description>
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