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		<title>By: Mastering Astronomy &#124; Humans are at least 8% virus &#124; Gene Expression</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/loom/2012/06/14/we-are-viral-from-the-beginning/#comment-18005</link>
		<dc:creator>Mastering Astronomy &#124; Humans are at least 8% virus &#124; Gene Expression</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Oct 2012 02:25:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] is already much of this going on through natural processes. Carl Zimmer for example points out that 8 percent of the human genome seems to derive from endogenous retroviruses (the post draws on material from his book A Planet of Viruses). This is probably a low bound [...] </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] is already much of this going on through natural processes. Carl Zimmer for example points out that 8 percent of the human genome seems to derive from endogenous retroviruses (the post draws on material from his book A Planet of Viruses). This is probably a low bound [...] </p>
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		<title>By: Humans are at least 8% virus &#124; Gene Expression &#124; Discover Magazine</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/loom/2012/06/14/we-are-viral-from-the-beginning/#comment-18004</link>
		<dc:creator>Humans are at least 8% virus &#124; Gene Expression &#124; Discover Magazine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Oct 2012 01:25:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Zimmer for example points out that 8 percent of the human genome seems to derive from endogenous retroviruses (the post draws on material from his book A Planet of Viruses). This is probably a low bound [...] </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Zimmer for example points out that 8 percent of the human genome seems to derive from endogenous retroviruses (the post draws on material from his book A Planet of Viruses). This is probably a low bound [...] </p>
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		<title>By: The Public Science</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/loom/2012/06/14/we-are-viral-from-the-beginning/#comment-18003</link>
		<dc:creator>The Public Science</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Sep 2012 06:37:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Viral Conception [...] </description>
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		<title>By: Kim DeCarlis</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/loom/2012/06/14/we-are-viral-from-the-beginning/#comment-18002</link>
		<dc:creator>Kim DeCarlis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jul 2012 12:41:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I totally agree with you Daniel J. Andrews. They should definitely update and expand on A Planet of Viruses! I think that this is very important material that should be open for people to be more aware of for sure.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I totally agree with you Daniel J. Andrews. They should definitely update and expand on A Planet of Viruses! I think that this is very important material that should be open for people to be more aware of for sure.</p>
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		<title>By: Bert</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/loom/2012/06/14/we-are-viral-from-the-beginning/#comment-18001</link>
		<dc:creator>Bert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jul 2012 04:51:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;At first, these so-called endogenous retroviruses lead a double life. They can still break free of their host and infect new ones.&quot;.

I don&#039;t think that the retrovirus that gets incorporated into the DNA of its host is necessarily active and capable of generating RNA copies. The translation process generates mutations and irrespective of that the packaging of the RNA, infection of a host and (after reverse transcriptase) integration into the host DNA can take place. So, the thing that gets integrated may be dead or barely alive on arrival. And that could well be the case for a majority of the cases because of selection pressure. Killing the host cell (egg) would not result in offspring.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;At first, these so-called endogenous retroviruses lead a double life. They can still break free of their host and infect new ones.&#8221;.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think that the retrovirus that gets incorporated into the DNA of its host is necessarily active and capable of generating RNA copies. The translation process generates mutations and irrespective of that the packaging of the RNA, infection of a host and (after reverse transcriptase) integration into the host DNA can take place. So, the thing that gets integrated may be dead or barely alive on arrival. And that could well be the case for a majority of the cases because of selection pressure. Killing the host cell (egg) would not result in offspring.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Burnett</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/loom/2012/06/14/we-are-viral-from-the-beginning/#comment-18000</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Burnett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jun 2012 16:16:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>According to the &quot;personhood&quot; folks, the red and pink and gray blobs in the photo at the top of the article are pre-born humans with full Constitutional rights to vote, drive, bear arms and such.  Did you get a model release from each one of them before the picture was taken?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>According to the &#8220;personhood&#8221; folks, the red and pink and gray blobs in the photo at the top of the article are pre-born humans with full Constitutional rights to vote, drive, bear arms and such.  Did you get a model release from each one of them before the picture was taken?</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel J. Andrews</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/loom/2012/06/14/we-are-viral-from-the-beginning/#comment-17999</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel J. Andrews</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Jun 2012 15:43:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;re probably tired of hearing this, but you have to update and expand A Planet of Viruses. This is fantastically interesting material and deserves to be put into one big book for a general audience.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re probably tired of hearing this, but you have to update and expand A Planet of Viruses. This is fantastically interesting material and deserves to be put into one big book for a general audience.</p>
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		<title>By: James V. Kohl</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/loom/2012/06/14/we-are-viral-from-the-beginning/#comment-17998</link>
		<dc:creator>James V. Kohl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jun 2012 23:57:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m struck by the parallels with The Viruses That Make Us: A Role For Endogenous Retrovirus In The Evolution Of Placental Species by Luis P. Villarreal, which was brought to my attention by Greg Bear. Among his other excellent works, Bear wrote two science fiction novels that incorporated ERV-driven adaptive evolution, and pheromonal communication, which is as essential to communication in a new species of humans as it is in microbes.

Pheromones, as we now know, are the chemicals that control nutrient chemical-dependent reproduction in all species. It seems likely that ERVs, including human ERVs  (HERVs) cause the changes in intracellular signaling and stochastic gene expression that allow us to use olfaction and odor receptors in the clear evolutionary trail that can be followed from unicellular organisms to insects to humans.

The HERVs, for example, need only alter a cell&#039;s ability to metabolize nutrient chemicals (food) to cause downstream effects on every cell of any organism.  The metabolism of the nutrient chemicals to pheromones does the rest in the context of adaptive evolution.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m struck by the parallels with The Viruses That Make Us: A Role For Endogenous Retrovirus In The Evolution Of Placental Species by Luis P. Villarreal, which was brought to my attention by Greg Bear. Among his other excellent works, Bear wrote two science fiction novels that incorporated ERV-driven adaptive evolution, and pheromonal communication, which is as essential to communication in a new species of humans as it is in microbes.</p>
<p>Pheromones, as we now know, are the chemicals that control nutrient chemical-dependent reproduction in all species. It seems likely that ERVs, including human ERVs  (HERVs) cause the changes in intracellular signaling and stochastic gene expression that allow us to use olfaction and odor receptors in the clear evolutionary trail that can be followed from unicellular organisms to insects to humans.</p>
<p>The HERVs, for example, need only alter a cell&#8217;s ability to metabolize nutrient chemicals (food) to cause downstream effects on every cell of any organism.  The metabolism of the nutrient chemicals to pheromones does the rest in the context of adaptive evolution.</p>
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		<title>By: Jess Tauber</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/loom/2012/06/14/we-are-viral-from-the-beginning/#comment-17997</link>
		<dc:creator>Jess Tauber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jun 2012 01:59:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are many parallels between genome and language structures and presumably functions as well, from an abstract perspective.  Some linguistic morphemes form messages, while others regulate them, or the listeners to the messages, etc. Viruses tend to be &#039;executive&#039; heavy, that is, they control hierarchically lower-level functions to their own benefit.

When one looks at archaeal communities, viruses are often permanently linked to them from without, yet don&#039;t destroy their erstwhile hosts. They are probably helping to transfer genes that convey the ability to get along in their resource-poor environments, both to locals as well as to newcomers. Bacterial viruses tend to be much more selfish and destructive, but then bacteria tend to be as well, all other things being equal (being opportunists of rich pickings that archaea apparently are not- there are few hints they cause disease (and if some do its unusual)).

In eukaryotes it may be the case (as some theorize) that nucleated cells come from a fusion of archaeal and eubacterial parents (along with their viruses one has to guess)- is there some continual give and take with external agents as well? The archaeal viruses, if benign and regulatory, would have formed the basis for much of the more cooperative executive machinery of the cell, while more opportunistic types would keep scaling the walls looking for entry. Some can be tamed. Can some of the ancient domesticated control genes mutate into fresh opportunists? My guess would be yes. Genetic dialectic. Lysenko would be proud- no, wait, he would have rejected all of this. Just as Marr would have rejected modern linguistics. God I miss the good old gulag days.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are many parallels between genome and language structures and presumably functions as well, from an abstract perspective.  Some linguistic morphemes form messages, while others regulate them, or the listeners to the messages, etc. Viruses tend to be &#8216;executive&#8217; heavy, that is, they control hierarchically lower-level functions to their own benefit.</p>
<p>When one looks at archaeal communities, viruses are often permanently linked to them from without, yet don&#8217;t destroy their erstwhile hosts. They are probably helping to transfer genes that convey the ability to get along in their resource-poor environments, both to locals as well as to newcomers. Bacterial viruses tend to be much more selfish and destructive, but then bacteria tend to be as well, all other things being equal (being opportunists of rich pickings that archaea apparently are not- there are few hints they cause disease (and if some do its unusual)).</p>
<p>In eukaryotes it may be the case (as some theorize) that nucleated cells come from a fusion of archaeal and eubacterial parents (along with their viruses one has to guess)- is there some continual give and take with external agents as well? The archaeal viruses, if benign and regulatory, would have formed the basis for much of the more cooperative executive machinery of the cell, while more opportunistic types would keep scaling the walls looking for entry. Some can be tamed. Can some of the ancient domesticated control genes mutate into fresh opportunists? My guess would be yes. Genetic dialectic. Lysenko would be proud- no, wait, he would have rejected all of this. Just as Marr would have rejected modern linguistics. God I miss the good old gulag days.</p>
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		<title>By: David B. Benson</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/loom/2012/06/14/we-are-viral-from-the-beginning/#comment-17996</link>
		<dc:creator>David B. Benson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jun 2012 02:58:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Astounding.  Better than F&amp;SF.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Astounding.  Better than F&amp;SF.</p>
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