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		<title>By: Ed Yong</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ed Yong</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 May 2009 22:41:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh yes please do that. Because, of course, if lots and lots of websites say the same thing, it must be true. Makes you wonder why academics bother with references, peer review and actual experiments when they could just settle long-standing debates with &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.googlefight.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;GoogleFight&lt;/a&gt;.
Sigh.
Timuchin, I think we&#039;ve wasted enough time on your incessant drivel. It&#039;s now getting very boring. Goodbye.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh yes please do that. Because, of course, if lots and lots of websites say the same thing, it must be true. Makes you wonder why academics bother with references, peer review and actual experiments when they could just settle long-standing debates with <a href="http://www.googlefight.com/" rel="nofollow">GoogleFight</a>.<br />
Sigh.<br />
Timuchin, I think we&#8217;ve wasted enough time on your incessant drivel. It&#8217;s now getting very boring. Goodbye.</p>
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		<title>By: Timuchin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Timuchin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 May 2009 19:31:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To judge between &quot;Whitecoat Tales&quot; and myself, google
1.  &quot;mennonites autism&quot;
2.  &quot;flu vaccines Thimerosal&quot;
3.  &quot;battery of vaccinations&quot;
4.  &quot;adjuvant aluminum&quot;
5.  &quot;alzheimer&#039;s aluminum&quot;
This ain&#039;t rocket science.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To judge between &#8220;Whitecoat Tales&#8221; and myself, google<br />
1.  &#8220;mennonites autism&#8221;<br />
2.  &#8220;flu vaccines Thimerosal&#8221;<br />
3.  &#8220;battery of vaccinations&#8221;<br />
4.  &#8220;adjuvant aluminum&#8221;<br />
5.  &#8220;alzheimer&#8217;s aluminum&#8221;<br />
This ain&#8217;t rocket science.</p>
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		<title>By: Whitecoat Tales</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/notrocketscience/2009/04/28/autism-linked-to-common-gene-variants-that-affect-the-connections-between-neurons/#comment-3329</link>
		<dc:creator>Whitecoat Tales</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2009 03:30:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For shame Timuchin ad hominem lately?
&lt;blockquote&gt;According to &quot;Whitecoat Tales,&quot; he is a third year med student whose only knowledge of ASD is through his university.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
I am a third year med student. My knowledge of ASD is NOT through my university. It is through science. Throughout my blog I have posted thorough references to science literature on the subject.
&lt;blockquote&gt; His university gets lots &amp; lots of money from the pharmacy companies.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Pharma. Shill. Gambit. Since I blog anonymously, you have no idea what university I go to. You therefore have no idea IF they accept money from pharmaceutical companies at all.
Even if my university DOES accept money from pharma companies, I see no way in which it invalidates my posts, since a)I don&#039;t get any money from big pharma, and b)I reference primary science literature.
&lt;blockquote&gt; He obviously has not read the links that people have posted on his own blog.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
For shame. You obviously haven&#039;t read my blog. I have responded to every vaccine denialist claim made on my blog, by reading their links, and correcting the mistakes found within.
&lt;blockquote&gt;The mercury preservative that is still used in vaccinations should be replaced with something less lethal like arsenic or potassium cyanide.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Disappointing. Thimerosal is no longer used in vaccines. It has never been proved to be dangerous at all, let alone as dangerous as arsenic or potassium cyanide. You have crossed the line from &quot;ignorance&quot; to &quot;malicious disinformation.&quot;
&lt;blockquote&gt; Google &quot;minimata disease&quot; to see the extreme symptoms of mercury poisoning.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
For shame. Minimata disease is mercury poisoning from MASSIVE DOSES of mercury. The doses seen in minimata disease are literally millions of times higher than recieved in the entire vaccine schedule. Infact, a few tuna sandwiches put more mercury in your body than vaccines do.
&lt;blockquote&gt;Aluminum is called &quot;adjuvant&quot; in vaccine mixes because it causes the body to go on full alert. Not surprising; it as well is poisonous. &lt;/blockquote&gt;
Learn immunology before you make claims about it.
&lt;blockquote&gt;No doctor knows what excess aluminum from a battery of shots does to the body.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Argument from YOUR ignorance is not an argument. Just because you don&#039;t know doesn&#039;t mean doctors don&#039;t know. &quot;excess aluminum&quot; is incorrect. If you&#039;ve ever eaten a small amount of aluminum foil on an overcooked piece of pizza you&#039;ve had more aluminum than is in a battery of shots. Chemisty is far more complicated than you&#039;re making it. A quick pubmed search on aluminum will tell you all about what aluminum toxicity is. It only occurs at doses multiple orders of magnitude higher than those given in vaccines.
I sugest you do your homework before you post here. Don&#039;t let your beliefs get in the way of learning.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For shame Timuchin ad hominem lately?</p>
<blockquote><p>According to &#8220;Whitecoat Tales,&#8221; he is a third year med student whose only knowledge of ASD is through his university.</p></blockquote>
<p>I am a third year med student. My knowledge of ASD is NOT through my university. It is through science. Throughout my blog I have posted thorough references to science literature on the subject.</p>
<blockquote><p> His university gets lots &amp; lots of money from the pharmacy companies.</p></blockquote>
<p>Pharma. Shill. Gambit. Since I blog anonymously, you have no idea what university I go to. You therefore have no idea IF they accept money from pharmaceutical companies at all.<br />
Even if my university DOES accept money from pharma companies, I see no way in which it invalidates my posts, since a)I don&#8217;t get any money from big pharma, and b)I reference primary science literature.</p>
<blockquote><p> He obviously has not read the links that people have posted on his own blog.</p></blockquote>
<p>For shame. You obviously haven&#8217;t read my blog. I have responded to every vaccine denialist claim made on my blog, by reading their links, and correcting the mistakes found within.</p>
<blockquote><p>The mercury preservative that is still used in vaccinations should be replaced with something less lethal like arsenic or potassium cyanide.</p></blockquote>
<p>Disappointing. Thimerosal is no longer used in vaccines. It has never been proved to be dangerous at all, let alone as dangerous as arsenic or potassium cyanide. You have crossed the line from &#8220;ignorance&#8221; to &#8220;malicious disinformation.&#8221;</p>
<blockquote><p> Google &#8220;minimata disease&#8221; to see the extreme symptoms of mercury poisoning.</p></blockquote>
<p>For shame. Minimata disease is mercury poisoning from MASSIVE DOSES of mercury. The doses seen in minimata disease are literally millions of times higher than recieved in the entire vaccine schedule. Infact, a few tuna sandwiches put more mercury in your body than vaccines do.</p>
<blockquote><p>Aluminum is called &#8220;adjuvant&#8221; in vaccine mixes because it causes the body to go on full alert. Not surprising; it as well is poisonous. </p></blockquote>
<p>Learn immunology before you make claims about it.</p>
<blockquote><p>No doctor knows what excess aluminum from a battery of shots does to the body.</p></blockquote>
<p>Argument from YOUR ignorance is not an argument. Just because you don&#8217;t know doesn&#8217;t mean doctors don&#8217;t know. &#8220;excess aluminum&#8221; is incorrect. If you&#8217;ve ever eaten a small amount of aluminum foil on an overcooked piece of pizza you&#8217;ve had more aluminum than is in a battery of shots. Chemisty is far more complicated than you&#8217;re making it. A quick pubmed search on aluminum will tell you all about what aluminum toxicity is. It only occurs at doses multiple orders of magnitude higher than those given in vaccines.<br />
I sugest you do your homework before you post here. Don&#8217;t let your beliefs get in the way of learning.</p>
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		<title>By: Timuchin</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/notrocketscience/2009/04/28/autism-linked-to-common-gene-variants-that-affect-the-connections-between-neurons/#comment-3328</link>
		<dc:creator>Timuchin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2009 02:48:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>According to &quot;Whitecoat Tales,&quot; he is a third year med student whose only knowledge of ASD is through his university.  His university gets lots &amp; lots of money from the pharmacy companies.  He obviously has not read the links that people have posted on his own blog.
The mercury preservative that is still used in vaccinations should be replaced with something less lethal like arsenic or potassium cyanide.  Google &quot;minimata disease&quot; to see the extreme symptoms of mercury poisoning.
Aluminum is called &quot;adjuvant&quot; in vaccine mixes because it causes the body to go on full alert.  Not surprising; it as well is poisonous. No doctor knows what excess aluminum from a battery of shots does to the body.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>According to &#8220;Whitecoat Tales,&#8221; he is a third year med student whose only knowledge of ASD is through his university.  His university gets lots &amp; lots of money from the pharmacy companies.  He obviously has not read the links that people have posted on his own blog.<br />
The mercury preservative that is still used in vaccinations should be replaced with something less lethal like arsenic or potassium cyanide.  Google &#8220;minimata disease&#8221; to see the extreme symptoms of mercury poisoning.<br />
Aluminum is called &#8220;adjuvant&#8221; in vaccine mixes because it causes the body to go on full alert.  Not surprising; it as well is poisonous. No doctor knows what excess aluminum from a battery of shots does to the body.</p>
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		<title>By: RAJ</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/notrocketscience/2009/04/28/autism-linked-to-common-gene-variants-that-affect-the-connections-between-neurons/#comment-3327</link>
		<dc:creator>RAJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 May 2009 18:49:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The supplementary data for this study is now available:
The autistic group selected based on European ancestry was highly skewed to males (males=83%) (females (17%).
The control group selected based on European ancestry was Male (52%) female (48%)
Nowhere in the study was there a segregation of males/females.
Common genetic variants often are skewed by gender. Some comon genetic variants are more common in males while other common genetic variants are more common in females.
Does anyone consider the control group as a representative sample?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The supplementary data for this study is now available:<br />
The autistic group selected based on European ancestry was highly skewed to males (males=83%) (females (17%).<br />
The control group selected based on European ancestry was Male (52%) female (48%)<br />
Nowhere in the study was there a segregation of males/females.<br />
Common genetic variants often are skewed by gender. Some comon genetic variants are more common in males while other common genetic variants are more common in females.<br />
Does anyone consider the control group as a representative sample?</p>
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		<title>By: Whitecoat Tales</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/notrocketscience/2009/04/28/autism-linked-to-common-gene-variants-that-affect-the-connections-between-neurons/#comment-3326</link>
		<dc:creator>Whitecoat Tales</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 May 2009 15:30:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;The Mennonites are not some tiny group in Waco Texas that is having trouble with inbreeding. They are a large number in settlements all over the country. People come and people go from their settlements. &lt;/blockquote&gt;
Simply, patently untrue. They may not be some tiny group in waco texas, but they are absolutely an isolated genetic population.
&lt;blockquote&gt;They are the exception to getting vaccinations and in getting autism. That&#039;s the only difference. They have been researched for autism by doctors.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Ah, research, post a citation then. Because if there is no citation, there probably was no research. If you mention Mayer Eisentien, I&#039;ll point out that he has refused to publish the &quot;findings&quot; that he has few patients with autism, and refuses to return calls to researchers who have said they&#039;d be willing to do all the work to attempt to prove his point.
&lt;blockquote&gt;But the vaccinations are already losing their effectiveness. &lt;/blockquote&gt;
The only way in which vaccines are losing their effectiveness is that some groups of people aren&#039;t using vaccines. Vaccines work in societies by herd immunity - a very large percentage must use the vaccine to protect those who haven&#039;t.
&lt;blockquote&gt;The hospitals are becoming dangerous places to go for surgeries.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
A lie, AND a complete nonsequitor. A lie because, hospitals are as safe, or safer than they have ever been. They are not &quot;becoming&quot; dangerous. A nonsequitor because none of the significant causes of mortality in the hospital, especially after surgery, were ever prevented by vaccines.
No one is saying vaccines will eventually prevent every disease. But they are very good at preventing diseases where there is a vaccine.
&lt;blockquote&gt;There is no vaccine protection against the swine flu that is spreading across the world right now.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Stupid example, the H1N1 swine variant is new! There could be a vaccine as early as the fall. If there is, I&#039;ll be taking it.
&lt;blockquote&gt;Honesty is the best policy.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
I agree, honesty is the best policy. Honestly, you haven&#039;t read anything about immunology before posting about it. You haven&#039;t read the links that people referred you to to recieve more information. You&#039;re trying to scare people with irrelevant information.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>The Mennonites are not some tiny group in Waco Texas that is having trouble with inbreeding. They are a large number in settlements all over the country. People come and people go from their settlements. </p></blockquote>
<p>Simply, patently untrue. They may not be some tiny group in waco texas, but they are absolutely an isolated genetic population.</p>
<blockquote><p>They are the exception to getting vaccinations and in getting autism. That&#8217;s the only difference. They have been researched for autism by doctors.</p></blockquote>
<p>Ah, research, post a citation then. Because if there is no citation, there probably was no research. If you mention Mayer Eisentien, I&#8217;ll point out that he has refused to publish the &#8220;findings&#8221; that he has few patients with autism, and refuses to return calls to researchers who have said they&#8217;d be willing to do all the work to attempt to prove his point.</p>
<blockquote><p>But the vaccinations are already losing their effectiveness. </p></blockquote>
<p>The only way in which vaccines are losing their effectiveness is that some groups of people aren&#8217;t using vaccines. Vaccines work in societies by herd immunity &#8211; a very large percentage must use the vaccine to protect those who haven&#8217;t.</p>
<blockquote><p>The hospitals are becoming dangerous places to go for surgeries.</p></blockquote>
<p>A lie, AND a complete nonsequitor. A lie because, hospitals are as safe, or safer than they have ever been. They are not &#8220;becoming&#8221; dangerous. A nonsequitor because none of the significant causes of mortality in the hospital, especially after surgery, were ever prevented by vaccines.<br />
No one is saying vaccines will eventually prevent every disease. But they are very good at preventing diseases where there is a vaccine.</p>
<blockquote><p>There is no vaccine protection against the swine flu that is spreading across the world right now.</p></blockquote>
<p>Stupid example, the H1N1 swine variant is new! There could be a vaccine as early as the fall. If there is, I&#8217;ll be taking it.</p>
<blockquote><p>Honesty is the best policy.</p></blockquote>
<p>I agree, honesty is the best policy. Honestly, you haven&#8217;t read anything about immunology before posting about it. You haven&#8217;t read the links that people referred you to to recieve more information. You&#8217;re trying to scare people with irrelevant information.</p>
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		<title>By: RAJ</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/notrocketscience/2009/04/28/autism-linked-to-common-gene-variants-that-affect-the-connections-between-neurons/#comment-3325</link>
		<dc:creator>RAJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 May 2009 12:46:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry for the triple posting. Science writers including this blog, fail to heed Einsteins&#039;s dictum of having &#039;a passionate resistence to the dogma of authority&#039;. The primary author of this study has been making the rounds of network and cable news claiming that 65% of autistics have this genetic mutation. In none of his network appearances has he disclosed that the same genetic mutation was found in 60% of the control group. Nor was he asked by &#039;science&#039; writers&#039;.
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/04/28/eveningnews/main4975659.shtml&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/04/28/eveningnews/main4975659.shtml&lt;/a&gt;
What conclusions would the general public make based on this type of reporting?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry for the triple posting. Science writers including this blog, fail to heed Einsteins&#8217;s dictum of having &#8216;a passionate resistence to the dogma of authority&#8217;. The primary author of this study has been making the rounds of network and cable news claiming that 65% of autistics have this genetic mutation. In none of his network appearances has he disclosed that the same genetic mutation was found in 60% of the control group. Nor was he asked by &#8216;science&#8217; writers&#8217;.<br />
<a href="http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/04/28/eveningnews/main4975659.shtml" rel="nofollow">http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/04/28/eveningnews/main4975659.shtml</a><br />
What conclusions would the general public make based on this type of reporting?</p>
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		<title>By: RAJ</title>
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		<dc:creator>RAJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 May 2009 12:03:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As Daniel MacArthur notes, the common genetic variant is found in 65% of the autism cases, but were also found in 60% of the control group. The control group was of European ancestry,while the AGRE group are of mixed ethnicity.
Common genetic variants tend to skew differently by ethnicity and gender. The most extreme skewing is the presence of &#039;XY&#039; sex chromosomes with a male - female ratio of 100% (males) to 0% (females).
The male:female ratio in autism has been reported to be anywhere from 3:1 to 9:1 depending on the study. I couldn&#039;t make sense of the demographics of the control group, perhaps you might be able to, but if the control group of European ancestry was not representative of the high male-female ratio reported in autism, one can only conclude that the control group was not representative of the autism group and the small difference between autistics (65%) and controls (60%) could be entirely explained by differneces in ethnicity and gender.
I hope you can inform the readers of the dempgraphics of the control group.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As Daniel MacArthur notes, the common genetic variant is found in 65% of the autism cases, but were also found in 60% of the control group. The control group was of European ancestry,while the AGRE group are of mixed ethnicity.<br />
Common genetic variants tend to skew differently by ethnicity and gender. The most extreme skewing is the presence of &#8216;XY&#8217; sex chromosomes with a male &#8211; female ratio of 100% (males) to 0% (females).<br />
The male:female ratio in autism has been reported to be anywhere from 3:1 to 9:1 depending on the study. I couldn&#8217;t make sense of the demographics of the control group, perhaps you might be able to, but if the control group of European ancestry was not representative of the high male-female ratio reported in autism, one can only conclude that the control group was not representative of the autism group and the small difference between autistics (65%) and controls (60%) could be entirely explained by differneces in ethnicity and gender.<br />
I hope you can inform the readers of the dempgraphics of the control group.</p>
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		<title>By: Timuchin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Timuchin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 May 2009 02:22:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I thank &quot;Science Blogs&quot; for not banning me and deleting my post.  The powers that be have often been that nasty.  Especially when billions of Dollars of potential lawsuit claims are at stake.
As for research, the medical companies are paying for scientific-looking studies to defend themselves, and ignoring or denigrating all studies that show them to be liable.
The Mennonites are not some tiny group in Waco Texas that is having trouble with inbreeding.  They are a large number in settlements all over the country.  People come and people go from their settlements.  They are the exception to getting vaccinations and in getting autism.  That&#039;s the only difference.  They have been researched for autism by doctors.
Science depends upon noticing numerous coincidences and checking for correlations.  This is how medicines were found among backwards tribes off in the jungle.  Those who wish to suppress the large correlation between vaccines and autism are being anti-scientific.
Before I knew I had Aspergers three years ago, I knew very little about autism and Aspergers.  As an amateur scientist I quickly made up for that deficit.
The autism part of ASD is a spectrum of how much damage has been done so far.  Chelation has a positive correlation with reducing the severity of the Autism.
If the pregnant mother is talked into having a battery of shots with ethyl mercury in them and the baby doesn&#039;t die, the baby can come from the womb with autism.
If a child is given a battery of shots (to save time), within one week the child often regresses into its own little world and can&#039;t talk anymore.  This is a major correlation that the medical companies and their shills do their best to disparage.  It doesn&#039;t take rocket science to see the correlation; it just takes a clipboard and a questionnaire.  And a thick hide to put up with the anti-scientific shills.
The next tactic the anti-scientific shills come up with is to say that we must protect the &quot;public confidence&quot; on vaccinations so we don&#039;t end up with a &quot;vaccine disaster.&quot;  But the vaccinations are already losing their effectiveness.  The hospitals are becoming dangerous places to go for surgeries.  There is no vaccine protection against the swine flu that is spreading across the world right now.  Honesty is the best policy.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thank &#8220;Science Blogs&#8221; for not banning me and deleting my post.  The powers that be have often been that nasty.  Especially when billions of Dollars of potential lawsuit claims are at stake.<br />
As for research, the medical companies are paying for scientific-looking studies to defend themselves, and ignoring or denigrating all studies that show them to be liable.<br />
The Mennonites are not some tiny group in Waco Texas that is having trouble with inbreeding.  They are a large number in settlements all over the country.  People come and people go from their settlements.  They are the exception to getting vaccinations and in getting autism.  That&#8217;s the only difference.  They have been researched for autism by doctors.<br />
Science depends upon noticing numerous coincidences and checking for correlations.  This is how medicines were found among backwards tribes off in the jungle.  Those who wish to suppress the large correlation between vaccines and autism are being anti-scientific.<br />
Before I knew I had Aspergers three years ago, I knew very little about autism and Aspergers.  As an amateur scientist I quickly made up for that deficit.<br />
The autism part of ASD is a spectrum of how much damage has been done so far.  Chelation has a positive correlation with reducing the severity of the Autism.<br />
If the pregnant mother is talked into having a battery of shots with ethyl mercury in them and the baby doesn&#8217;t die, the baby can come from the womb with autism.<br />
If a child is given a battery of shots (to save time), within one week the child often regresses into its own little world and can&#8217;t talk anymore.  This is a major correlation that the medical companies and their shills do their best to disparage.  It doesn&#8217;t take rocket science to see the correlation; it just takes a clipboard and a questionnaire.  And a thick hide to put up with the anti-scientific shills.<br />
The next tactic the anti-scientific shills come up with is to say that we must protect the &#8220;public confidence&#8221; on vaccinations so we don&#8217;t end up with a &#8220;vaccine disaster.&#8221;  But the vaccinations are already losing their effectiveness.  The hospitals are becoming dangerous places to go for surgeries.  There is no vaccine protection against the swine flu that is spreading across the world right now.  Honesty is the best policy.</p>
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		<title>By: Whitecoat Tales</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 04 May 2009 04:44:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@JP : Thanks for the shoutout :-D, I&#039;m very glad that some people have found the series heloful.
@Timuchin: Admittedly, ASD is complicated, and the causes not entirely known. This is a good example of the of research that could lead to answers.
No study has shown ASD of any sort is caused by heavy metal poisoning. Many people who make this claim make their money off of chelation therapy. This is a dangerous therapy, that is demonstrably not helpful in patients with ASD.
&lt;blockquote&gt;The Mennonite communities have no cases of autism; they don&#039;t take vaccinations with mercury preservatives&lt;/blockquote&gt;
The Mennonite community is also a very limited genetic pool. How would you differentiate a genetic cause from an environmental or other cause?
The same goes for almost every limited isolated group that supposedly has no ASD.
&lt;blockquote&gt;There are numerous testimonies of healing from autism on the chelation forums.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Unfortunately, ASDs are complicated. Their course is variable. That means that things don&#039;t always stay the same, many people improve on their own, or get worse on their own.
Those testimonials don&#039;t really prove anything, because odds are good that the people testifying would have improved anyway. Those people who didn&#039;t improve, don&#039;t testify. It&#039;s a form of survivorship bias. Thats one reason that science is important to tell us what treatments are useful.
My apologies for the textbook of a reply!
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@JP : Thanks for the shoutout <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/notrocketscience/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':-D' class='wp-smiley' /> , I&#8217;m very glad that some people have found the series heloful.<br />
@Timuchin: Admittedly, ASD is complicated, and the causes not entirely known. This is a good example of the of research that could lead to answers.<br />
No study has shown ASD of any sort is caused by heavy metal poisoning. Many people who make this claim make their money off of chelation therapy. This is a dangerous therapy, that is demonstrably not helpful in patients with ASD.</p>
<blockquote><p>The Mennonite communities have no cases of autism; they don&#8217;t take vaccinations with mercury preservatives</p></blockquote>
<p>The Mennonite community is also a very limited genetic pool. How would you differentiate a genetic cause from an environmental or other cause?<br />
The same goes for almost every limited isolated group that supposedly has no ASD.</p>
<blockquote><p>There are numerous testimonies of healing from autism on the chelation forums.
</p></blockquote>
<p>Unfortunately, ASDs are complicated. Their course is variable. That means that things don&#8217;t always stay the same, many people improve on their own, or get worse on their own.<br />
Those testimonials don&#8217;t really prove anything, because odds are good that the people testifying would have improved anyway. Those people who didn&#8217;t improve, don&#8217;t testify. It&#8217;s a form of survivorship bias. Thats one reason that science is important to tell us what treatments are useful.<br />
My apologies for the textbook of a reply!</p>
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