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	<title>Comments on: Delay not deviance: brains of children with ADHD mature later than other</title>
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		<title>By: Gopi Aravind</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gopi Aravind</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 04:26:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, nice article! One question though. If its a delay but not a deviance, how would this explain Adult ADHD? The other explanation by Dr. Thomase Brown about how ADHD is a result of an impairment of the Executive functions makes sense here.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, nice article! One question though. If its a delay but not a deviance, how would this explain Adult ADHD? The other explanation by Dr. Thomase Brown about how ADHD is a result of an impairment of the Executive functions makes sense here.</p>
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		<title>By: Ali</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ali</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Dec 2009 08:56:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Any research on what happens to kids with both ADD/ADHD and an autism spectrum disorder?  If they have opposite effects on cortical maturation, I&#039;m curious how kids with both disorders would look.  Or kids who have very high IQs but one or both disorders.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Any research on what happens to kids with both ADD/ADHD and an autism spectrum disorder?  If they have opposite effects on cortical maturation, I&#8217;m curious how kids with both disorders would look.  Or kids who have very high IQs but one or both disorders.</p>
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		<title>By: jlorraine</title>
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		<dc:creator>jlorraine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 12:02:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wish they did speak more about adult ADHD.  The studies on adults are inadequate and when more studies come out on children and don&#039;t properly address these issues, it just perpetuates the myth that adults can&#039;t have ADHD.  Though it is an interesting article.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wish they did speak more about adult ADHD.  The studies on adults are inadequate and when more studies come out on children and don&#8217;t properly address these issues, it just perpetuates the myth that adults can&#8217;t have ADHD.  Though it is an interesting article.</p>
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		<title>By: London Tuition</title>
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		<dc:creator>London Tuition</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Dec 2009 09:36:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know a lot of experts on dyspraxia (which is a developmental disorder that often co-occurs with ADHD) say that you do not grow out of dyspraxia. They point out that it&#039;s very hard to diagnose dyspraxia early as it is hard to distinguish between dyspraxia and a developmental delay. This therefore raises the interesting distinction between on the one hand showing dyspraxia-like, or indeed ADHD-like, symptoms at a younger age due to a developmental delay and on the other hand actually having dyspraxia or ADHD. The former would therefore &#039;grow out&#039; of the condition whereas the latter would not. I&#039;m not an expert in this field but I would be interested to see if this is a logical distinction.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know a lot of experts on dyspraxia (which is a developmental disorder that often co-occurs with ADHD) say that you do not grow out of dyspraxia. They point out that it&#8217;s very hard to diagnose dyspraxia early as it is hard to distinguish between dyspraxia and a developmental delay. This therefore raises the interesting distinction between on the one hand showing dyspraxia-like, or indeed ADHD-like, symptoms at a younger age due to a developmental delay and on the other hand actually having dyspraxia or ADHD. The former would therefore &#8216;grow out&#8217; of the condition whereas the latter would not. I&#8217;m not an expert in this field but I would be interested to see if this is a logical distinction.</p>
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		<title>By: brooks</title>
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		<dc:creator>brooks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Dec 2009 02:56:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i was diagnosed as ADHD-I (predominantly inattentive type) in college in my mid-20s, and i can testify to the fact that, despite usually testing as &quot;gifted&quot; by one measure or another, i did peak physically, socially, intellectually and academically several years later than most of my peers. my mother recognized early on that i was, as she put it, &#039;Young for your age&#039;, though she never keyed in to my absent-mindedness as something out of the ordinary (not surprising, seeing as how my mother shares many of the same traits).
so this study certainly confirms some of my own non-expert observations and suspicions. thanks, Ed!
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i was diagnosed as ADHD-I (predominantly inattentive type) in college in my mid-20s, and i can testify to the fact that, despite usually testing as &#8220;gifted&#8221; by one measure or another, i did peak physically, socially, intellectually and academically several years later than most of my peers. my mother recognized early on that i was, as she put it, &#8216;Young for your age&#8217;, though she never keyed in to my absent-mindedness as something out of the ordinary (not surprising, seeing as how my mother shares many of the same traits).<br />
so this study certainly confirms some of my own non-expert observations and suspicions. thanks, Ed!</p>
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		<title>By: dysTalk - dyslexia, dyspraxia &#38; ADHD</title>
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		<dc:creator>dysTalk - dyslexia, dyspraxia &#38; ADHD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Nov 2009 23:47:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Really interesting piece. Was there any correlation in the results here between the different typyes of ADHD? i.e. were children more likely to &#039;grow out&#039; of ADHD if they had for instance innattentive type rather than hyperactive impulsive type or vice versa?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Really interesting piece. Was there any correlation in the results here between the different typyes of ADHD? i.e. were children more likely to &#8216;grow out&#8217; of ADHD if they had for instance innattentive type rather than hyperactive impulsive type or vice versa?</p>
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		<title>By: Ed Yong</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ed Yong</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Nov 2009 23:20:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent questions.
Lilian and Sci - No info in the paper about medication, but the authors addressed this in a &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18794206&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;follow-up study&lt;/a&gt;. Among adolescents on psychostimulants, they found slower rates of cortical &lt;em&gt;thinning&lt;/em&gt; in some parts of the brain (right motor strip, left middle/inferior frontal gyrus, and right parieto-occipital region). Rates were around 5 times slower. However, the authors found no differences in clinical outcomes.
Stagyar - the children in this study did eventually catch up with the standard level of development; it just took them longer. No data on adult ADHD.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent questions.<br />
Lilian and Sci &#8211; No info in the paper about medication, but the authors addressed this in a <a href="http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18794206" rel="nofollow">follow-up study</a>. Among adolescents on psychostimulants, they found slower rates of cortical <em>thinning</em> in some parts of the brain (right motor strip, left middle/inferior frontal gyrus, and right parieto-occipital region). Rates were around 5 times slower. However, the authors found no differences in clinical outcomes.<br />
Stagyar &#8211; the children in this study did eventually catch up with the standard level of development; it just took them longer. No data on adult ADHD.</p>
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		<title>By: Stagyar zil Doggo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stagyar zil Doggo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Nov 2009 23:07:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Any comments on patients with Adult ADD/ADHD in the article? The obvious (and probably wrong) extension of these observations would make them out to be &quot;children who never grew up&quot;.
Comparisons with people who develop Attention Deficits after injury/illness would also be interesting.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Any comments on patients with Adult ADD/ADHD in the article? The obvious (and probably wrong) extension of these observations would make them out to be &#8220;children who never grew up&#8221;.<br />
Comparisons with people who develop Attention Deficits after injury/illness would also be interesting.</p>
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		<title>By: Scicurious</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scicurious</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Nov 2009 16:45:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good coverage, Ed!  Another question: were these kids medicated, and what were the possible effects of long-term stimulant medication on cortical development?  If these kids were medicated, could that be exacerbating the delays, or helping them catch up?  How fast do they &quot;catch-up&quot; under normal conditions?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good coverage, Ed!  Another question: were these kids medicated, and what were the possible effects of long-term stimulant medication on cortical development?  If these kids were medicated, could that be exacerbating the delays, or helping them catch up?  How fast do they &#8220;catch-up&#8221; under normal conditions?</p>
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		<title>By: Lilian Nattel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lilian Nattel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Nov 2009 16:40:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is fascinating. Have there been any new developments along these lines or corroboration since you wrote this?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is fascinating. Have there been any new developments along these lines or corroboration since you wrote this?</p>
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