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	<title>Comments on: When is attempted murder more acceptable than harming someone by accident?</title>
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		<title>By: Markus Hirsch</title>
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		<dc:creator>Markus Hirsch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Mar 2010 17:31:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Markus, after asking Liane, I’ve made a change to the wording of that sentence. Hopefully it makes more sense now.&lt;/i&gt;

Thanks. That does make it a bit clearer. I have to admit I&#039;m a bit puzzled by the complexity of these examples. The way it&#039;s written, Dan knows (or at least has reason to expect) he&#039;s condemning his visitors to certain death, but he&#039;s not directly killing them - the viruses do. From what I know of the classic moral dilemmas, people are more willing to let one person die to save five others than to actively harm that one person to the same effect. I wonder how the VMPCs would have fared if Dan had taken a more directly active role in the visitors&#039; demise by trying to take them out with a gun?

&lt;i&gt;Are people who are inclined to overlook the attempted murder also more likely to blame an accident as if it were murder? Or are there very different mechanisms involved in blaming others for evil intentions, versus absolving others for benign intentions after a traumatic event?&lt;/i&gt;

In a similar vein, what happens if Dan behaves in a manner that is not certain to lead to harm but makes it much more likely? Say, Dan didn&#039;t know the switch was broken because he couldn&#039;t be bothered with all the usual safety procedures? Or, Dan gets behind the wheel drunk as a skunk and mows down some unsuspecting pedestrian (or not)?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Markus, after asking Liane, I’ve made a change to the wording of that sentence. Hopefully it makes more sense now.</i></p>
<p>Thanks. That does make it a bit clearer. I have to admit I&#8217;m a bit puzzled by the complexity of these examples. The way it&#8217;s written, Dan knows (or at least has reason to expect) he&#8217;s condemning his visitors to certain death, but he&#8217;s not directly killing them &#8211; the viruses do. From what I know of the classic moral dilemmas, people are more willing to let one person die to save five others than to actively harm that one person to the same effect. I wonder how the VMPCs would have fared if Dan had taken a more directly active role in the visitors&#8217; demise by trying to take them out with a gun?</p>
<p><i>Are people who are inclined to overlook the attempted murder also more likely to blame an accident as if it were murder? Or are there very different mechanisms involved in blaming others for evil intentions, versus absolving others for benign intentions after a traumatic event?</i></p>
<p>In a similar vein, what happens if Dan behaves in a manner that is not certain to lead to harm but makes it much more likely? Say, Dan didn&#8217;t know the switch was broken because he couldn&#8217;t be bothered with all the usual safety procedures? Or, Dan gets behind the wheel drunk as a skunk and mows down some unsuspecting pedestrian (or not)?</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Blue</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/notrocketscience/2010/03/26/when-is-attempted-murder-more-acceptable-than-harming-someone-by-accident/comment-page-1/#comment-7258</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim Blue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Mar 2010 16:18:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The links at the bottom, More On Morality, are broken.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The links at the bottom, More On Morality, are broken.</p>
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		<title>By: Nils Ross</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/notrocketscience/2010/03/26/when-is-attempted-murder-more-acceptable-than-harming-someone-by-accident/comment-page-1/#comment-7257</link>
		<dc:creator>Nils Ross</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Mar 2010 09:04:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s hard to be convinced that the part of our mind that reasons through intent is necessarily linked to empathy -- or any kind of emotion -- at all. Did this study take into account the possibility that the problem is literally that the VMPC or some other part is simply associated with a more &#039;dry&#039; assessment of intent?

That is, are people with VMPC damage as capable of assessing WHAT intent is of a particular sequence of actions in isolation of ANY consequences?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s hard to be convinced that the part of our mind that reasons through intent is necessarily linked to empathy &#8212; or any kind of emotion &#8212; at all. Did this study take into account the possibility that the problem is literally that the VMPC or some other part is simply associated with a more &#8216;dry&#8217; assessment of intent?</p>
<p>That is, are people with VMPC damage as capable of assessing WHAT intent is of a particular sequence of actions in isolation of ANY consequences?</p>
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		<title>By: Ed Yong</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/notrocketscience/2010/03/26/when-is-attempted-murder-more-acceptable-than-harming-someone-by-accident/comment-page-1/#comment-7253</link>
		<dc:creator>Ed Yong</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Mar 2010 02:59:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Markus, after asking Liane, I&#039;ve made a change to the wording of that sentence. Hopefully it makes more sense now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Markus, after asking Liane, I&#8217;ve made a change to the wording of that sentence. Hopefully it makes more sense now.</p>
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		<title>By: J. Goard</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/notrocketscience/2010/03/26/when-is-attempted-murder-more-acceptable-than-harming-someone-by-accident/comment-page-1/#comment-7245</link>
		<dc:creator>J. Goard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Mar 2010 01:58:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I want to know the correlation between non-harm/failed-attempt differential and accidental/successful differential. Are people who are inclined to overlook the attempted murder also more likely to blame an accident as if it were murder? Or are there very different mechanisms involved in blaming others for evil intentions, versus absolving others for benign intentions after a traumatic event?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I want to know the correlation between non-harm/failed-attempt differential and accidental/successful differential. Are people who are inclined to overlook the attempted murder also more likely to blame an accident as if it were murder? Or are there very different mechanisms involved in blaming others for evil intentions, versus absolving others for benign intentions after a traumatic event?</p>
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		<title>By: Markus Hirsch</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/notrocketscience/2010/03/26/when-is-attempted-murder-more-acceptable-than-harming-someone-by-accident/comment-page-1/#comment-7223</link>
		<dc:creator>Markus Hirsch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Mar 2010 18:01:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;&quot;Young thinks that the VMPC is vital for our ability to deduce the intentions of other people, an important skill when it comes to making moral judgments.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

Maybe I&#039;m overthinking or misinterpreting this, but it sounds as if Young doesn&#039;t know whether the brain damaged patients didn&#039;t know Dan&#039;s intentions, or knew but didn&#039;t care. Isn&#039;t that something she could have found out by simply asking them?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>&#8220;Young thinks that the VMPC is vital for our ability to deduce the intentions of other people, an important skill when it comes to making moral judgments.&#8221;</i></p>
<p>Maybe I&#8217;m overthinking or misinterpreting this, but it sounds as if Young doesn&#8217;t know whether the brain damaged patients didn&#8217;t know Dan&#8217;s intentions, or knew but didn&#8217;t care. Isn&#8217;t that something she could have found out by simply asking them?</p>
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