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	<title>Comments on: Scientists create first ever synthetic bacterium that looks like Craig Venter</title>
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		<title>By: Ted Roland</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/notrocketscience/2010/05/20/scientists-create-first-ever-synthetic-bacterium-that-looks-like-craig-venter/#comment-7605</link>
		<dc:creator>Ted Roland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Dec 2010 09:45:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>haha, i wish you posted more often</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>haha, i wish you posted more often</p>
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		<title>By: Captain Skellett</title>
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		<dc:creator>Captain Skellett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 May 2010 10:23:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ROFLMAO, Ed you are hilarious. I may never stop laughing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ROFLMAO, Ed you are hilarious. I may never stop laughing.</p>
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		<title>By: Ucalegon</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/notrocketscience/2010/05/20/scientists-create-first-ever-synthetic-bacterium-that-looks-like-craig-venter/#comment-7603</link>
		<dc:creator>Ucalegon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 May 2010 12:26:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Yassen -- well, maybe.  But his Institute&#039;s publicity operation sent out thousands of press packs that were not humble at all...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Yassen &#8212; well, maybe.  But his Institute&#8217;s publicity operation sent out thousands of press packs that were not humble at all&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Yassen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Yassen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 May 2010 09:18:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What does JC Venter say about the proportion of the work? We can read and judge for ourselves:

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704026204575266460432676840.html

According to me the opinion of JCV for the work done is just and humble.


Regards!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What does JC Venter say about the proportion of the work? We can read and judge for ourselves:</p>
<p><a href="http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704026204575266460432676840.html" rel="nofollow">http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704026204575266460432676840.html</a></p>
<p>According to me the opinion of JCV for the work done is just and humble.</p>
<p>Regards!</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel Damineli</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/notrocketscience/2010/05/20/scientists-create-first-ever-synthetic-bacterium-that-looks-like-craig-venter/#comment-7601</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel Damineli</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 May 2010 10:43:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Although clearly a technical advance, Venter&#039;s recent work has considerably been blown out of proportions. If anything of what we know about how the genome works is true, there is no surprise that synthesizing a sequence of nucleotides (known to be the recipient&#039;s genome) and inserting into a cell with a fully functional biochemical machinery leads to viable cells. Understanding genetic regulation and control takes approaches qualitatively different from this one as illustrated by works such as this (http://www.elowitz.caltech.edu/publications/Tunability.pdf) and this (http://rsif.royalsocietypublishing.org/content/6/34/463.long).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Although clearly a technical advance, Venter&#8217;s recent work has considerably been blown out of proportions. If anything of what we know about how the genome works is true, there is no surprise that synthesizing a sequence of nucleotides (known to be the recipient&#8217;s genome) and inserting into a cell with a fully functional biochemical machinery leads to viable cells. Understanding genetic regulation and control takes approaches qualitatively different from this one as illustrated by works such as this (<a href="http://www.elowitz.caltech.edu/publications/Tunability.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.elowitz.caltech.edu/publications/Tunability.pdf</a>) and this (<a href="http://rsif.royalsocietypublishing.org/content/6/34/463.long" rel="nofollow">http://rsif.royalsocietypublishing.org/content/6/34/463.long</a>).</p>
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		<title>By: Stefano Borini</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/notrocketscience/2010/05/20/scientists-create-first-ever-synthetic-bacterium-that-looks-like-craig-venter/#comment-7600</link>
		<dc:creator>Stefano Borini</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 May 2010 03:41:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Chris : no, it&#039;s not a stupid question. Indeed in bioreactors the original strain is periodically refreshed, exactly to prevent production of mutated strains that create secondary polluting metabolites.

Examples... I don&#039;t have my book of industrial biochemistry with me, and a long time has passed, but if I am not mistaken typical cases are vinegar/acetic acid production, ethanol from sugar production byproducts, and yogurt production. All these bioreactors require periodic maintenance to remove and reseed the fresh strain once in a while.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Chris : no, it&#8217;s not a stupid question. Indeed in bioreactors the original strain is periodically refreshed, exactly to prevent production of mutated strains that create secondary polluting metabolites.</p>
<p>Examples&#8230; I don&#8217;t have my book of industrial biochemistry with me, and a long time has passed, but if I am not mistaken typical cases are vinegar/acetic acid production, ethanol from sugar production byproducts, and yogurt production. All these bioreactors require periodic maintenance to remove and reseed the fresh strain once in a while.</p>
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		<title>By: Pete Moulton</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pete Moulton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 May 2010 00:47:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Damn, Ed! I was planning to go birding tomorrow, and now you&#039;ve got me looking for Craig Venter&#039;s face on every bird.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Damn, Ed! I was planning to go birding tomorrow, and now you&#8217;ve got me looking for Craig Venter&#8217;s face on every bird.</p>
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		<title>By: amphiox</title>
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		<dc:creator>amphiox</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 May 2010 19:22:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;If we use bacteria as biofuels, what happens when they start mutating upon replication? Won’t their capability of providing biofuel be compromised? &lt;/blockquote&gt;

A little bit of compromise would probably be inevitable. Unlike with most other domestic animals and plants, we&#039;re not going to be able to control and selection at every single generation, so as our synthetic bacteria grow up, some small proportion with mutations are bound to arise and spread and compromise the intended purpose.

But of course we never get 100% theoretical perfect processes anyways from any sort of engineering. The trick is to simply keep the efficiency high enough to be useful. That shouldn&#039;t be insurmountable.

&lt;blockquote&gt;If we use yest cells to bake bread, what happens when they start mutating upon replication? Won’t their capability of providing dough be compromised?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

One advantage with the yeast is we are exploiting a trait in the yeast that is also beneficial to the yeast themselves. To some extent evolutionary pressures will work in our favor to preserve the trait we want.

When we try to design synthetic organisms to do useful tasks for us, we&#039;ll probably try to engineer them in that manner too. If we want them to make biofuel, for example, we won&#039;t want to make the biochemical pathway for producing the biofuel wholly an energetic drain on the bacteria - in which case any mutations that compromise the function will be favored, and we&#039;d have to be constantly fighting that tendency with our own artificial selection. We&#039;d ideally want the biofuel generating pathway to also provide a benefit to the bacteria - for example by generating energy for them as the precursor is converted to the biofuel, or something like that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>If we use bacteria as biofuels, what happens when they start mutating upon replication? Won’t their capability of providing biofuel be compromised? </p></blockquote>
<p>A little bit of compromise would probably be inevitable. Unlike with most other domestic animals and plants, we&#8217;re not going to be able to control and selection at every single generation, so as our synthetic bacteria grow up, some small proportion with mutations are bound to arise and spread and compromise the intended purpose.</p>
<p>But of course we never get 100% theoretical perfect processes anyways from any sort of engineering. The trick is to simply keep the efficiency high enough to be useful. That shouldn&#8217;t be insurmountable.</p>
<blockquote><p>If we use yest cells to bake bread, what happens when they start mutating upon replication? Won’t their capability of providing dough be compromised?</p></blockquote>
<p>One advantage with the yeast is we are exploiting a trait in the yeast that is also beneficial to the yeast themselves. To some extent evolutionary pressures will work in our favor to preserve the trait we want.</p>
<p>When we try to design synthetic organisms to do useful tasks for us, we&#8217;ll probably try to engineer them in that manner too. If we want them to make biofuel, for example, we won&#8217;t want to make the biochemical pathway for producing the biofuel wholly an energetic drain on the bacteria &#8211; in which case any mutations that compromise the function will be favored, and we&#8217;d have to be constantly fighting that tendency with our own artificial selection. We&#8217;d ideally want the biofuel generating pathway to also provide a benefit to the bacteria &#8211; for example by generating energy for them as the precursor is converted to the biofuel, or something like that.</p>
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		<title>By: Adriana</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adriana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 May 2010 17:50:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brilliant satire! I didn&#039;t know you had such a refined sense of humor, Ed!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brilliant satire! I didn&#8217;t know you had such a refined sense of humor, Ed!</p>
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		<title>By: Ben</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ben</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 May 2010 09:55:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Meanwhile, it transpired that Venter has coded a line from a James Joyce novel into his synthetic genome, a move that drew condemnation from America’s creationist groups, who didn’t understand what a novel was.&quot;

Genius.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Meanwhile, it transpired that Venter has coded a line from a James Joyce novel into his synthetic genome, a move that drew condemnation from America’s creationist groups, who didn’t understand what a novel was.&#8221;</p>
<p>Genius.</p>
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