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		<title>By: Jay S</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jay S</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 May 2011 14:38:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It appears that nobody took into account that the reason for the subconscious nervous response has less to do with &quot;racism&quot; than it does with &quot;hey, is that my hand?!&quot;

If the hand I see being stabbed with a needle is ~obviously~ not mine, my brain only responds with, &quot;Hey, that looks like it could hurt.&quot;

If the hand being stabbed look like mine, my brain responds with, &quot;OW! OW! OW! OW! OW! OW! ... Oh, wait...that&#039;s not me.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It appears that nobody took into account that the reason for the subconscious nervous response has less to do with &#8220;racism&#8221; than it does with &#8220;hey, is that my hand?!&#8221;</p>
<p>If the hand I see being stabbed with a needle is ~obviously~ not mine, my brain only responds with, &#8220;Hey, that looks like it could hurt.&#8221;</p>
<p>If the hand being stabbed look like mine, my brain responds with, &#8220;OW! OW! OW! OW! OW! OW! &#8230; Oh, wait&#8230;that&#8217;s not me.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Giorgy84</title>
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		<dc:creator>Giorgy84</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jun 2010 14:25:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve found the original article here:
http://www.cell.com/current-biology/abstract/S0960-9822(10)00515-4

I think this study is more about &quot;embodiment of others&#039; painful sensations&quot; - not exactly empathy - at least not emotional empathy. All the effects of race are found at a sensorimotor, not emotional level of brain processing.
Interestingly, it seems that emotional reactivity (skin conductance response), although less immediate, is present also for the pain of outgroup members: thus, even when racial bias is at play, people emotionally react to the pain of outgroup members - slowly, but they do!
This leads me to think about how embodiment and emotional empathy may be related to racism etc. Imagine you are watching a dog in pain. Even if you feel emotions for the dog (e.g. concern), probably your brain will not embody the dog&#039;s pain in your sensorimotor neural maps - as if you were feeling the dog&#039;s pain on your body.
I think something similar may automatically happen in the brain of people with high racial bias when perceiving the pain of outgroup members. In principle they may feel unpleasant emotions for others-race pain (even concern?!). But, according to this research, their brain would treat that pain as the pain of a non-human being.
This is a neuroscientific proof that racists perceive other-race members in a de-humanized manner. I&#039;m wondering what type of legal implications this research may have.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve found the original article here:<br />
<a href="http://www.cell.com/current-biology/abstract/S0960-9822(10)00515-4" rel="nofollow">http://www.cell.com/current-biology/abstract/S0960-9822(10)00515-4</a></p>
<p>I think this study is more about &#8220;embodiment of others&#8217; painful sensations&#8221; &#8211; not exactly empathy &#8211; at least not emotional empathy. All the effects of race are found at a sensorimotor, not emotional level of brain processing.<br />
Interestingly, it seems that emotional reactivity (skin conductance response), although less immediate, is present also for the pain of outgroup members: thus, even when racial bias is at play, people emotionally react to the pain of outgroup members &#8211; slowly, but they do!<br />
This leads me to think about how embodiment and emotional empathy may be related to racism etc. Imagine you are watching a dog in pain. Even if you feel emotions for the dog (e.g. concern), probably your brain will not embody the dog&#8217;s pain in your sensorimotor neural maps &#8211; as if you were feeling the dog&#8217;s pain on your body.<br />
I think something similar may automatically happen in the brain of people with high racial bias when perceiving the pain of outgroup members. In principle they may feel unpleasant emotions for others-race pain (even concern?!). But, according to this research, their brain would treat that pain as the pain of a non-human being.<br />
This is a neuroscientific proof that racists perceive other-race members in a de-humanized manner. I&#8217;m wondering what type of legal implications this research may have.</p>
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		<title>By: Re</title>
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		<dc:creator>Re</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jun 2010 01:04:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ed,

Were the black Italians African immigrants, or were they born and raised in Italy? Did the black Italians associate negative words with the term â€śItalianâ€ť and positive words with the term â€śAfricanâ€ť?

When the race IAT is used on American participants, white Americans have a pro-white bias, but black Americans on the whole have both a pro-white and pro-black bias. I assume that this is because American culture as a whole associates whiteness with positivity and blackness with negativity, and black Americans are raised in American culture. I wonder if the black Italians were raised in a black-majority culture, or if they were raised in white-majority Italy.</description>
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<p>Were the black Italians African immigrants, or were they born and raised in Italy? Did the black Italians associate negative words with the term â€śItalianâ€ť and positive words with the term â€śAfricanâ€ť?</p>
<p>When the race IAT is used on American participants, white Americans have a pro-white bias, but black Americans on the whole have both a pro-white and pro-black bias. I assume that this is because American culture as a whole associates whiteness with positivity and blackness with negativity, and black Americans are raised in American culture. I wonder if the black Italians were raised in a black-majority culture, or if they were raised in white-majority Italy.</p>
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		<title>By: socialbrain</title>
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		<dc:creator>socialbrain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jun 2010 10:15:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the purple hand is a good experimental control for visual familiarity and physical similarit -- in the absence of cultural sterotypes (we usually don&#039;t have prejudice for purple people...!). The purple hand is perceived as unfamiliar and dissimilar to the self, however the brain incorporates the pain of this hand. Thus lower response toward the other race member&#039;s pain is not due to reduced visual familiarity or somatic dissimilarity, but is likely linked to social stereotypes. This is supported by the relation between empathic brain response and Implicit Association Test, suggesting that the brain of people with high racial bias is insensitive to other-race pain. I think I like this study that suggests that cultural conditioning shapes our brain functions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the purple hand is a good experimental control for visual familiarity and physical similarit &#8212; in the absence of cultural sterotypes (we usually don&#8217;t have prejudice for purple people&#8230;!). The purple hand is perceived as unfamiliar and dissimilar to the self, however the brain incorporates the pain of this hand. Thus lower response toward the other race member&#8217;s pain is not due to reduced visual familiarity or somatic dissimilarity, but is likely linked to social stereotypes. This is supported by the relation between empathic brain response and Implicit Association Test, suggesting that the brain of people with high racial bias is insensitive to other-race pain. I think I like this study that suggests that cultural conditioning shapes our brain functions.</p>
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		<title>By: outeast</title>
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		<dc:creator>outeast</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jun 2010 12:09:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not convinced that Cornflower&#039;s hypothesis adds anything new - surely the &#039;baggage&#039; surrounding this identifiable &#039;other&#039;, this sense of a &#039;different group that cannot be us&#039; &lt;i&gt;is&lt;/i&gt; racial prejudice?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not convinced that Cornflower&#8217;s hypothesis adds anything new &#8211; surely the &#8216;baggage&#8217; surrounding this identifiable &#8216;other&#8217;, this sense of a &#8216;different group that cannot be us&#8217; <i>is</i> racial prejudice?</p>
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		<title>By: jdmimic</title>
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		<dc:creator>jdmimic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jun 2010 19:14:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cornflower brings up the very point I was thinking about. I question whether this study says anything about &quot;racial prejudice&quot; rather than simply the ability to see the observed appendage as a part of oneself. If the hand looks like one of yours, you are more likely to self-identify with it. The purple hand can be self-associated because it is outside the limits of normal skin tone variation. If it has a normal skin tone that is different from one&#039;s own, it is clearly not one&#039;s own hand and thus is harder to self-identify with it.

I am not saying people don&#039;t have racial bias or prejudice, but i am unconvinced this study shows that. Numerous studies have shown that people empathize with others and that they empathize faster with those closest to their own appearance. This study is no different.

I might suggest a way to test this though. Have the people paint or dye their hands to look like those in the picture and see if their reactions are altered. Would they then respond to the other color as their own or their natural skin color?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cornflower brings up the very point I was thinking about. I question whether this study says anything about &#8220;racial prejudice&#8221; rather than simply the ability to see the observed appendage as a part of oneself. If the hand looks like one of yours, you are more likely to self-identify with it. The purple hand can be self-associated because it is outside the limits of normal skin tone variation. If it has a normal skin tone that is different from one&#8217;s own, it is clearly not one&#8217;s own hand and thus is harder to self-identify with it.</p>
<p>I am not saying people don&#8217;t have racial bias or prejudice, but i am unconvinced this study shows that. Numerous studies have shown that people empathize with others and that they empathize faster with those closest to their own appearance. This study is no different.</p>
<p>I might suggest a way to test this though. Have the people paint or dye their hands to look like those in the picture and see if their reactions are altered. Would they then respond to the other color as their own or their natural skin color?</p>
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		<title>By: Fay Lovecraft</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fay Lovecraft</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 May 2010 02:31:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>why didn&#039;t they test with any biracial people?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>why didn&#8217;t they test with any biracial people?</p>
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		<title>By: southlakesmom</title>
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		<dc:creator>southlakesmom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 May 2010 13:04:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would caution also that those of us who think we are &quot;less&quot; prejudice or biased may simply be better schooled in how to avoid looking like a bigot. This kind of study might be very eye opening for those who claim to be &quot;less&quot; or &quot;not&quot; racially prejudiced.

I make no such claim. I know I am a human being who strives daily to put aside the less admirable parts of my upbringing.  HoweverI squirm at the idea of being tested for how I really feel rather than how I think I do -- but it might be good for me to see it so I could be more aware of how to overcome it better.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would caution also that those of us who think we are &#8220;less&#8221; prejudice or biased may simply be better schooled in how to avoid looking like a bigot. This kind of study might be very eye opening for those who claim to be &#8220;less&#8221; or &#8220;not&#8221; racially prejudiced.</p>
<p>I make no such claim. I know I am a human being who strives daily to put aside the less admirable parts of my upbringing.  HoweverI squirm at the idea of being tested for how I really feel rather than how I think I do &#8212; but it might be good for me to see it so I could be more aware of how to overcome it better.</p>
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		<title>By: Cornflower</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cornflower</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 May 2010 12:58:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is a plausible explanation for empathy towards the purple hand that needs to be investigated in conjunction with the racial bias study, namely, that we can _more_ readily identify with (see similarities with outself) a human-looking hand of a naturally unhuman colour, such as purple, because there is no impediment to believing it might be our own race, our own ethnic group, our own neighbour.  In fact, I would be surprised if we had shown as much racial bias against a purple hand to one that was not a similar colour to our own.

We see the hand of our own colour, and we identify with its pain easily, as we don&#039;t require much imagination to think of it as us.  With the purple hand, because we do _not_ identify it with an _other_, a different group that cannot be us, we don&#039;t have any baggage surrounding it.  Think children&#039;s characters, such as Dr. Seuss characters, where our anthropomorphic tendencies is to equate these strange creatures with ourselves, even if they talk nonsense words.

Contrast this with a hand that is of a skin colour which exists in humanity, but is not closely matched to our own background.  It is more difficult to think of that person as _us_, because we can categorized him/her as someone of that other group.

This study is intriguing, and it opens the door to many other questions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is a plausible explanation for empathy towards the purple hand that needs to be investigated in conjunction with the racial bias study, namely, that we can _more_ readily identify with (see similarities with outself) a human-looking hand of a naturally unhuman colour, such as purple, because there is no impediment to believing it might be our own race, our own ethnic group, our own neighbour.  In fact, I would be surprised if we had shown as much racial bias against a purple hand to one that was not a similar colour to our own.</p>
<p>We see the hand of our own colour, and we identify with its pain easily, as we don&#8217;t require much imagination to think of it as us.  With the purple hand, because we do _not_ identify it with an _other_, a different group that cannot be us, we don&#8217;t have any baggage surrounding it.  Think children&#8217;s characters, such as Dr. Seuss characters, where our anthropomorphic tendencies is to equate these strange creatures with ourselves, even if they talk nonsense words.</p>
<p>Contrast this with a hand that is of a skin colour which exists in humanity, but is not closely matched to our own background.  It is more difficult to think of that person as _us_, because we can categorized him/her as someone of that other group.</p>
<p>This study is intriguing, and it opens the door to many other questions.</p>
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		<title>By: fatkid</title>
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		<dc:creator>fatkid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 May 2010 09:24:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nature:1 Tabula Rasa:0

Too bad we ate or killed the people that could have managed the planet long enough to sustain it. Just because we are the last men standing doesn&#039;t mean we are the best men.</description>
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<p>Too bad we ate or killed the people that could have managed the planet long enough to sustain it. Just because we are the last men standing doesn&#8217;t mean we are the best men.</p>
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