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		<title>By: Ed Yong</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/notrocketscience/2010/07/21/how-i-got-my-genes-tested-and-the-birth-of-science-writer-disease-risk-top-trumps/#comment-8471</link>
		<dc:creator>Ed Yong</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Aug 2010 16:38:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s a very, very good point.</description>
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		<title>By: Raj</title>
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		<dc:creator>Raj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Aug 2010 16:23:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great article. Many thanks for taking the plunge. After reading this article, I went to the 23andme website, and the pictures on the home page were of: a black woman, an asian man, and an asian baby.
Quite honestly, that is a little misleading. I would actually have been quite keen to sign up, but thanks to your research I now know that they don&#039;t have much of a database for Asians.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great article. Many thanks for taking the plunge. After reading this article, I went to the 23andme website, and the pictures on the home page were of: a black woman, an asian man, and an asian baby.<br />
Quite honestly, that is a little misleading. I would actually have been quite keen to sign up, but thanks to your research I now know that they don&#8217;t have much of a database for Asians.</p>
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		<title>By: Heidi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Heidi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Jul 2010 21:56:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jennifer, I&#039;m going to disagree with two parts of your statement.

The first disagreement I have is your statement that people can alter their genetics.  My understanding (I&#039;m definitely not a geneticist, but I do have a strong science background) is that you may be able to affect the expression of your genetics, but you can&#039;t change what&#039;s coded in your DNA.  Perhaps that&#039;s what you meant to type, but it&#039;s not what actually got typed.

The second disagreement is the idea that knowing more about your risk factors is negative.  For people with some personality types, it&#039;s certainly possible that finding out that they have an increased risk of something is going to stress them so badly that it actually increases the likelihood that that disease develops.  Possible, but I have to admit that I&#039;m pretty skeptical that it&#039;s the most likely response people will have.   I totally agree with your statement that a healthy lifestyle is important, but I think the reality is that most people pick and choose which aspects of &quot;healthy living&quot; they&#039;re going to focus on.  Some folks (including me!) may be more likely to focus on improving specific aspects of a &quot;healthy lifestyle&quot; if they have stronger evidence that their behavior is putting their health/life at risk.  For example... I&#039;m adopted, and in the last few years, I made contact with and gotten to know my birth mother.  I also gained access to medical history info that hadn&#039;t been available to me previously.  I was always aware that keeping active, eating healthy, etc were important, and that it was important to not become overweight.  However, it became much more &quot;real&quot; to me when I found out that obesity and obesity related illnesses were problems in my birth family.  It made me much more aware of my weight- not in an obsessive way, but as something that I really DO need to pay attention to.  Did I know previously that being overweight was bad?  Certainly!  But now I&#039;m more aware of the risks associated with that little upward creep in my weight.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jennifer, I&#8217;m going to disagree with two parts of your statement.</p>
<p>The first disagreement I have is your statement that people can alter their genetics.  My understanding (I&#8217;m definitely not a geneticist, but I do have a strong science background) is that you may be able to affect the expression of your genetics, but you can&#8217;t change what&#8217;s coded in your DNA.  Perhaps that&#8217;s what you meant to type, but it&#8217;s not what actually got typed.</p>
<p>The second disagreement is the idea that knowing more about your risk factors is negative.  For people with some personality types, it&#8217;s certainly possible that finding out that they have an increased risk of something is going to stress them so badly that it actually increases the likelihood that that disease develops.  Possible, but I have to admit that I&#8217;m pretty skeptical that it&#8217;s the most likely response people will have.   I totally agree with your statement that a healthy lifestyle is important, but I think the reality is that most people pick and choose which aspects of &#8220;healthy living&#8221; they&#8217;re going to focus on.  Some folks (including me!) may be more likely to focus on improving specific aspects of a &#8220;healthy lifestyle&#8221; if they have stronger evidence that their behavior is putting their health/life at risk.  For example&#8230; I&#8217;m adopted, and in the last few years, I made contact with and gotten to know my birth mother.  I also gained access to medical history info that hadn&#8217;t been available to me previously.  I was always aware that keeping active, eating healthy, etc were important, and that it was important to not become overweight.  However, it became much more &#8220;real&#8221; to me when I found out that obesity and obesity related illnesses were problems in my birth family.  It made me much more aware of my weight- not in an obsessive way, but as something that I really DO need to pay attention to.  Did I know previously that being overweight was bad?  Certainly!  But now I&#8217;m more aware of the risks associated with that little upward creep in my weight.</p>
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		<title>By: Rebecca</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rebecca</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jul 2010 02:08:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You cannot alter your genetics in a specific, directed manner through diet, exercise, or mindset.    Alterations can occur in DNA; sunbathing for instance causes random double-strand breaks in DNA but the key word here is RANDOM.   Specifically altering a gene has been done in model organisms.   If you are reading this, chances are that you are not a laboratory mouse.   Lifestyle does impact the effects of your gene products, but it cannot alter individual DNA basepairs in a directed (non-random) fashion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You cannot alter your genetics in a specific, directed manner through diet, exercise, or mindset.    Alterations can occur in DNA; sunbathing for instance causes random double-strand breaks in DNA but the key word here is RANDOM.   Specifically altering a gene has been done in model organisms.   If you are reading this, chances are that you are not a laboratory mouse.   Lifestyle does impact the effects of your gene products, but it cannot alter individual DNA basepairs in a directed (non-random) fashion.</p>
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		<title>By: Jennifer Angela</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jennifer Angela</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jul 2010 20:17:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You can actually alter your genetics during your life time, right now, as you are living, due to a healthy life style (in a positive way) or a devastating life style (in a negative way). It´s not all about the way you were born. You can be born with a tendency to develop diabetes and yet never end up suffering from that illness if you stick to a healthy diet and have a healthy life style. Also, the &quot;self-fullfilling prophecy&quot; - effect all psychology fans among you will know, has a strong effect on your life. E.g.: If you find out due to genetic tests that you have a tendency to developing an eye illness and you will get extremely upset about it, certainly your eyes (as they contain endless amounts of nerve cells) will start stirring and your vision will become worse. If you assume: &quot;Oh no, I am getting this horrible eye disease now!&quot; - certainly you will get more upset, your vision will get even worse... you will be caught within a vicious circle. For that reason I advise people to just lead a healthy style (including a carefree attitude) and to let go of genetic tests concerning themselves, IF they are not convinced they really want to do those tests. Life itself is full of controlling, testing, observing and assessing powers anyway. Why controll, observe, test and assess yourself even more than you have been already? I need to add, that you don´t have to agree with me! It´s your own risk. If you insist on testing yourself genetically, just do it! If you feel you have no urge to hestitate, then I guess you really want to do it. But if you feel this slight discomfort within yourself at the very thought of assessing yourself due to your genetics, then don´t do it. I could think of so many reasons to avoid doing just that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You can actually alter your genetics during your life time, right now, as you are living, due to a healthy life style (in a positive way) or a devastating life style (in a negative way). It´s not all about the way you were born. You can be born with a tendency to develop diabetes and yet never end up suffering from that illness if you stick to a healthy diet and have a healthy life style. Also, the &#8220;self-fullfilling prophecy&#8221; &#8211; effect all psychology fans among you will know, has a strong effect on your life. E.g.: If you find out due to genetic tests that you have a tendency to developing an eye illness and you will get extremely upset about it, certainly your eyes (as they contain endless amounts of nerve cells) will start stirring and your vision will become worse. If you assume: &#8220;Oh no, I am getting this horrible eye disease now!&#8221; &#8211; certainly you will get more upset, your vision will get even worse&#8230; you will be caught within a vicious circle. For that reason I advise people to just lead a healthy style (including a carefree attitude) and to let go of genetic tests concerning themselves, IF they are not convinced they really want to do those tests. Life itself is full of controlling, testing, observing and assessing powers anyway. Why controll, observe, test and assess yourself even more than you have been already? I need to add, that you don´t have to agree with me! It´s your own risk. If you insist on testing yourself genetically, just do it! If you feel you have no urge to hestitate, then I guess you really want to do it. But if you feel this slight discomfort within yourself at the very thought of assessing yourself due to your genetics, then don´t do it. I could think of so many reasons to avoid doing just that.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Gerard</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul Gerard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jul 2010 23:00:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In these times of infancy of genetic testing, there is is bound to be some potential for consumer confusion. I submit that there is potential for confusion, or at least disagreement as to the meaning of the test results, among professional genetic counselors. Nevertheless, savvy medical consumers are learning to pay attention to a number of medical tests including blood panels that disclose cholesterol levels by type (HDL and LDL ring a bell?), triglycerides, etc.  I believe that the more you are involved with your own medical care, the better overall medical care you will end up receiving.

I was diagnosed with type II adult-onset diabetes about 10 years ago. In the 10 years preceding that diagnosis, diabetes and &quot;pre-diabetes&quot; was simply not high on my medical risk radar -- before the Internet and Wikipedia. However, had I known that I had a moderately increased risk of type II diabetes (even without knowing these statistically important proviso -- what percentage of the risk is genetic in the first instance) I may have looked at my own pattern of consuming four or five soft drinks made with high fructose corn syrup and a nightly bowl of vanilla ice cream and made wiser choices.  My physician provides online historical results of my cholesterol blood work in a graphic form.  This kind of information has a salutary effect in involving me more acutely and intimately with my own healthcare. I believe genetic testing has a similar effect.

One thing that you did not highlight is that genetic testing done by a reputable company like 23andMe is very much like a gift that gives on giving. Their geneticists and microbiologists keep up on current literature and medical &quot;discoveries&quot; regarding the SNPs tested by 23 and the company provides updated reports as to what these findings mean, if anything, to their customers. Information comes out in time frames of weeks and months, not years.

Finally, even if this kind of genetic information is not meant to be of diagnostic medical value to consumers at this point, several companies have promised whole genome tests by 2013 for under $1000.  I believe that getting a head start on the inevitable genomic information explosion is worth the initial confusion that the introduction of new technology always brings. I feel confident that terms like allele and SNP will become common parlance among most people in the next decade.

PS: New results today -- leprosy susceptibility. Not anything to be worried or confused about, but interesting anyway.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In these times of infancy of genetic testing, there is is bound to be some potential for consumer confusion. I submit that there is potential for confusion, or at least disagreement as to the meaning of the test results, among professional genetic counselors. Nevertheless, savvy medical consumers are learning to pay attention to a number of medical tests including blood panels that disclose cholesterol levels by type (HDL and LDL ring a bell?), triglycerides, etc.  I believe that the more you are involved with your own medical care, the better overall medical care you will end up receiving.</p>
<p>I was diagnosed with type II adult-onset diabetes about 10 years ago. In the 10 years preceding that diagnosis, diabetes and &#8220;pre-diabetes&#8221; was simply not high on my medical risk radar &#8212; before the Internet and Wikipedia. However, had I known that I had a moderately increased risk of type II diabetes (even without knowing these statistically important proviso &#8212; what percentage of the risk is genetic in the first instance) I may have looked at my own pattern of consuming four or five soft drinks made with high fructose corn syrup and a nightly bowl of vanilla ice cream and made wiser choices.  My physician provides online historical results of my cholesterol blood work in a graphic form.  This kind of information has a salutary effect in involving me more acutely and intimately with my own healthcare. I believe genetic testing has a similar effect.</p>
<p>One thing that you did not highlight is that genetic testing done by a reputable company like 23andMe is very much like a gift that gives on giving. Their geneticists and microbiologists keep up on current literature and medical &#8220;discoveries&#8221; regarding the SNPs tested by 23 and the company provides updated reports as to what these findings mean, if anything, to their customers. Information comes out in time frames of weeks and months, not years.</p>
<p>Finally, even if this kind of genetic information is not meant to be of diagnostic medical value to consumers at this point, several companies have promised whole genome tests by 2013 for under $1000.  I believe that getting a head start on the inevitable genomic information explosion is worth the initial confusion that the introduction of new technology always brings. I feel confident that terms like allele and SNP will become common parlance among most people in the next decade.</p>
<p>PS: New results today &#8212; leprosy susceptibility. Not anything to be worried or confused about, but interesting anyway.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Gerard</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/notrocketscience/2010/07/21/how-i-got-my-genes-tested-and-the-birth-of-science-writer-disease-risk-top-trumps/#comment-8465</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Gerard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jul 2010 22:52:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In these times of infancy of genetic testing, there is is bound to be some potential for consumer confusion. I submit that there is potential for confusion, or at least disagreement as to the meaning of the test results, among professional genetic counselors. Nevertheless, savvy medical consumers are learning to pay attention to a number of medical tests including blood panels that disclose cholesterol levels by type (HDL and LDL ring a bell?), triglycerides, etc.  I believe that the more you are involved with your own medical care, the better overall medical care you will end up receiving.

I was diagnosed with type II adult-onset diabetes about 10 years ago. In the 10 years preceding that diagnosis, diabetes and &quot;pre-diabetes&quot; was simply not high on my medical risk radar -- before the Internet and Wikipedia. However, had I known that I had a moderately increased risk of type II diabetes (even without knowing these statistically important proviso -- what percentage of the risk is genetic in the first instance) I may have looked at my own pattern of consuming four or five soft drinks made with high fructose corn syrup and a nightly bowl of vanilla ice cream and made wiser choices.  My physician provides online historical results of my cholesterol blood work in a graphic form.  This kind of information has a salutary effect in involving me more acutely and intimately with my own healthcare. I believe genetic testing has a similar effect.

One thing that you did not highlight is that genetic testing done by a reputable company like 23andMe is very much like a gift that gives on giving. Their geneticists and microbiologists keep up on current literature and medical &quot;discoveries&quot; regarding the SNPs tested by 23 and the company provides updated reports as to what these findings mean, if anything, to their customers. Information comes out in time frames of weeks and months, not years.

Finally, even if this kind of genetic information is not meant to be of diagnostic medical value to consumers at this point, several companies have promised whole genome tests by 2013 for under $1000.  I believe that getting a head start on the inevitable genomic information explosion is worth the initial confusion that the introduction of new technology always brings. I feel confident that terms like allele and SNP will become common parlance among most people in the next decade.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In these times of infancy of genetic testing, there is is bound to be some potential for consumer confusion. I submit that there is potential for confusion, or at least disagreement as to the meaning of the test results, among professional genetic counselors. Nevertheless, savvy medical consumers are learning to pay attention to a number of medical tests including blood panels that disclose cholesterol levels by type (HDL and LDL ring a bell?), triglycerides, etc.  I believe that the more you are involved with your own medical care, the better overall medical care you will end up receiving.</p>
<p>I was diagnosed with type II adult-onset diabetes about 10 years ago. In the 10 years preceding that diagnosis, diabetes and &#8220;pre-diabetes&#8221; was simply not high on my medical risk radar &#8212; before the Internet and Wikipedia. However, had I known that I had a moderately increased risk of type II diabetes (even without knowing these statistically important proviso &#8212; what percentage of the risk is genetic in the first instance) I may have looked at my own pattern of consuming four or five soft drinks made with high fructose corn syrup and a nightly bowl of vanilla ice cream and made wiser choices.  My physician provides online historical results of my cholesterol blood work in a graphic form.  This kind of information has a salutary effect in involving me more acutely and intimately with my own healthcare. I believe genetic testing has a similar effect.</p>
<p>One thing that you did not highlight is that genetic testing done by a reputable company like 23andMe is very much like a gift that gives on giving. Their geneticists and microbiologists keep up on current literature and medical &#8220;discoveries&#8221; regarding the SNPs tested by 23 and the company provides updated reports as to what these findings mean, if anything, to their customers. Information comes out in time frames of weeks and months, not years.</p>
<p>Finally, even if this kind of genetic information is not meant to be of diagnostic medical value to consumers at this point, several companies have promised whole genome tests by 2013 for under $1000.  I believe that getting a head start on the inevitable genomic information explosion is worth the initial confusion that the introduction of new technology always brings. I feel confident that terms like allele and SNP will become common parlance among most people in the next decade.</p>
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		<title>By: ruphos</title>
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		<dc:creator>ruphos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jul 2010 17:51:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I signed up for 23andMe when they had their DNA Day special. Their offerings are pretty fun, but they only mention the safest of the results and don&#039;t really get into info coming from the latest studies, etc. For the average person who may have a certain amount of trepidation regarding their results that&#039;s probably not a bad idea, but I want to know everything. The thought of being susceptible to early-onset alzheimer&#039;s is particularly terrifying to me, but if that possibility is there I damn well want to know. 23andMe isn&#039;t touching that one, and actually doesn&#039;t test for all the APOE SNPs (though I was told this was mainly due to poor resolution at that particular site).

If you are also interested in seeing absolutely everything about genotype data, SNPedia has a pretty fantastic little tool called Promethease. It takes in data exported from 23andMe, deCODE and other services and exports a pretty comprehensive summary of all the SNPs that were genotyped and your variants. If it&#039;s only a preliminary study or there is some debate, it talks about that as well. I actually found it far more interesting than 23andMe&#039;s offerings.

Promethease: http://www.snpedia.com/index.php/Promethease</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I signed up for 23andMe when they had their DNA Day special. Their offerings are pretty fun, but they only mention the safest of the results and don&#8217;t really get into info coming from the latest studies, etc. For the average person who may have a certain amount of trepidation regarding their results that&#8217;s probably not a bad idea, but I want to know everything. The thought of being susceptible to early-onset alzheimer&#8217;s is particularly terrifying to me, but if that possibility is there I damn well want to know. 23andMe isn&#8217;t touching that one, and actually doesn&#8217;t test for all the APOE SNPs (though I was told this was mainly due to poor resolution at that particular site).</p>
<p>If you are also interested in seeing absolutely everything about genotype data, SNPedia has a pretty fantastic little tool called Promethease. It takes in data exported from 23andMe, deCODE and other services and exports a pretty comprehensive summary of all the SNPs that were genotyped and your variants. If it&#8217;s only a preliminary study or there is some debate, it talks about that as well. I actually found it far more interesting than 23andMe&#8217;s offerings.</p>
<p>Promethease: <a href="http://www.snpedia.com/index.php/Promethease" rel="nofollow">http://www.snpedia.com/index.php/Promethease</a></p>
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		<title>By: Razib Khan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Razib Khan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jul 2010 15:56:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Doesn’t really seem biologically plausible, does it?&lt;/i&gt;

epistasis?</description>
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<p>epistasis?</p>
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		<title>By: Andy Williams</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andy Williams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jul 2010 13:48:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bloody fascinating article, Ed.
Thanks for doing this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bloody fascinating article, Ed.<br />
Thanks for doing this.</p>
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