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		<title>By: Ed Yong</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/notrocketscience/2010/12/17/parasitic-worms-paint-warning-colours-on-their-hosts-using-glowing-bacteria/#comment-10179</link>
		<dc:creator>Ed Yong</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Jan 2011 16:30:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don, I asked Andy Fenton about your point. His response:

&quot;It’s true that these are soil-dwelling nematodes, and that we would be unlikely to see infected insects exposed on the soil surface.  However, many birds that feed on soil-based insects (eg starlings, blackbirds etc) do so by probing in the ground and looking for grubs.  Starlings in particular open their beaks in the soil to create a hole which they examine for prey – and it is at this point the infected insect would be seen.

It is a fair point though that the experimental set up we used was artificial, as an initial test of the idea that the colour change could be a deterrent, and it would be great to now test it under more realistic conditions.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don, I asked Andy Fenton about your point. His response:</p>
<p>&#8220;It’s true that these are soil-dwelling nematodes, and that we would be unlikely to see infected insects exposed on the soil surface.  However, many birds that feed on soil-based insects (eg starlings, blackbirds etc) do so by probing in the ground and looking for grubs.  Starlings in particular open their beaks in the soil to create a hole which they examine for prey – and it is at this point the infected insect would be seen.</p>
<p>It is a fair point though that the experimental set up we used was artificial, as an initial test of the idea that the colour change could be a deterrent, and it would be great to now test it under more realistic conditions.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Don</title>
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		<dc:creator>Don</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Dec 2010 15:13:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Ed: Heterorhabditis spp are soil dwellers, and their host insects aren&#039;t normally exposed to the eyes of birds. I have studied these and related entomopathogenic nematodes for 15 years in the field and never seen a host exposed; all were underground. Happy to provide you with references.
Regards, Don Strong</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Ed: Heterorhabditis spp are soil dwellers, and their host insects aren&#8217;t normally exposed to the eyes of birds. I have studied these and related entomopathogenic nematodes for 15 years in the field and never seen a host exposed; all were underground. Happy to provide you with references.<br />
Regards, Don Strong</p>
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		<title>By: James</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/notrocketscience/2010/12/17/parasitic-worms-paint-warning-colours-on-their-hosts-using-glowing-bacteria/#comment-10177</link>
		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Dec 2010 23:49:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>lol, I was so eager to comment that I missed that link! I&#039;m so glad you liked it. I&#039;ve got some picks of infections but I don&#039;t think I can post them in here. To Twitter!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>lol, I was so eager to comment that I missed that link! I&#8217;m so glad you liked it. I&#8217;ve got some picks of infections but I don&#8217;t think I can post them in here. To Twitter!</p>
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		<title>By: Ed Yong</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/notrocketscience/2010/12/17/parasitic-worms-paint-warning-colours-on-their-hosts-using-glowing-bacteria/#comment-10176</link>
		<dc:creator>Ed Yong</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Dec 2010 23:35:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>James, I actually linked to your piece above! See last paragraph. It was a *really* nice piece.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>James, I actually linked to your piece above! See last paragraph. It was a *really* nice piece.</p>
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		<title>By: James</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/notrocketscience/2010/12/17/parasitic-worms-paint-warning-colours-on-their-hosts-using-glowing-bacteria/#comment-10175</link>
		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Dec 2010 22:16:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s such an amazing story of symbiosis! I wrote something similar up at SciAm blogs as well. From what I have read the glow seems to act as a deterrent for birds and mammals but an attractant for other insects and larvae facilitating easy spread of the bacteria and nematodes between hosts.
http://tinyurl.com/26v2767

Also @Dan Bailey
The secretions of the worms and bacteria are almost exclusively larvacidal but can cause minor infections if the bacteria get into the underlying skin layers, generally causing ulceration but are easily treated.

Great piece Ed, always love your write ups :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s such an amazing story of symbiosis! I wrote something similar up at SciAm blogs as well. From what I have read the glow seems to act as a deterrent for birds and mammals but an attractant for other insects and larvae facilitating easy spread of the bacteria and nematodes between hosts.<br />
<a href="http://tinyurl.com/26v2767" rel="nofollow">http://tinyurl.com/26v2767</a></p>
<p>Also @Dan Bailey<br />
The secretions of the worms and bacteria are almost exclusively larvacidal but can cause minor infections if the bacteria get into the underlying skin layers, generally causing ulceration but are easily treated.</p>
<p>Great piece Ed, always love your write ups <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/notrocketscience/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Ed Yong</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/notrocketscience/2010/12/17/parasitic-worms-paint-warning-colours-on-their-hosts-using-glowing-bacteria/#comment-10174</link>
		<dc:creator>Ed Yong</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Dec 2010 18:19:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dan- No, no problems for birds or mammals. Birds in the study were unharmed if they were deliberately fed the infected larvae.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dan- No, no problems for birds or mammals. Birds in the study were unharmed if they were deliberately fed the infected larvae.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Bailey</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/notrocketscience/2010/12/17/parasitic-worms-paint-warning-colours-on-their-hosts-using-glowing-bacteria/#comment-10173</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan Bailey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Dec 2010 18:10:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve heard the &quot;angel glow&quot; story before, but I always wondered, are the glowing bacteria pathogenic in humans? It seems like they&#039;re certainly bad news for caterpillars and other insects, but could they also cause sickness in humans, or birds for that matter? If the bacteria can liquify the inside of a caterpillar, you&#039;d think they could also do some damage while growing in an open wound.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve heard the &#8220;angel glow&#8221; story before, but I always wondered, are the glowing bacteria pathogenic in humans? It seems like they&#8217;re certainly bad news for caterpillars and other insects, but could they also cause sickness in humans, or birds for that matter? If the bacteria can liquify the inside of a caterpillar, you&#8217;d think they could also do some damage while growing in an open wound.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Dec 2010 18:01:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Parasite-host behavior is a favorite conversational topic of mine, and this is yet another round of ammunition in my arsenal of intriguing examples.  Most of the others I know of are listed here: the snail fluke and toxo, particularly.

This one&#039;s a doozy, though, and may not be suitable for dinner parties.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Parasite-host behavior is a favorite conversational topic of mine, and this is yet another round of ammunition in my arsenal of intriguing examples.  Most of the others I know of are listed here: the snail fluke and toxo, particularly.</p>
<p>This one&#8217;s a doozy, though, and may not be suitable for dinner parties.</p>
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		<title>By: Kat</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Dec 2010 16:48:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Am I the only person who thought that was a photo of a croissant?
I&#039;m hungry now, you bastard :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Am I the only person who thought that was a photo of a croissant?<br />
I&#8217;m hungry now, you bastard <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/notrocketscience/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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