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	<title>Comments on: Genetic snooze button shows that broken sleep impairs memories</title>
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		<title>By: Hollybelle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hollybelle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jul 2011 23:14:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@7.  I enjoyed your comments.  Perhaps someone should study you?!  I have also found that &quot;napping&quot; for 20 - 30 minutes at a time reduces my need to sleep at night.  I used to sleep about 9 hours straight and never felt energetic during the long day.  Now I have changed my working hours to 4-midnight with a 30 min nap in-between and I feel much better!  Also, I only sleep about 7 - 7.5 hours during the night and wake without an alarm clock.  I am obviously not retired yet, but it will be interesting to see how my sleep pattern/requirements change as I move from 45 onward.  Thanks for your post.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@7.  I enjoyed your comments.  Perhaps someone should study you?!  I have also found that &#8220;napping&#8221; for 20 &#8211; 30 minutes at a time reduces my need to sleep at night.  I used to sleep about 9 hours straight and never felt energetic during the long day.  Now I have changed my working hours to 4-midnight with a 30 min nap in-between and I feel much better!  Also, I only sleep about 7 &#8211; 7.5 hours during the night and wake without an alarm clock.  I am obviously not retired yet, but it will be interesting to see how my sleep pattern/requirements change as I move from 45 onward.  Thanks for your post.</p>
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		<title>By: Jockaira</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jockaira</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jul 2011 17:49:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have absolutely no restrictions on my time, no where I must be, no one to see...etc., and I also keep a written record of my activivities, diet, etc. I sleep when I feel like it, I wake up when I feel like it.

The majority of my sleeps are about 90 minutes with an average of a bit less than once a day at four to six hours, the usual total for 24 hours being about 7-8 hours. About once every two weeks, I may not sleep any for up to 36 hours and then drop off for 8-12 hours straight.

I am now retired, but had been self-employed in business for 40 years where I made my own rules and own schedule. Work for the week was usually done in 2-3 days each week by working &#039;til tired, then sleeping for 2-4 hours, then working &#039;til tired again. This allowed me to have 4-5 days of free time each week, a real benefit of a loose sleep schedule triggered by actual need or tiredness, and not by routine, habit, or the necessity of accommodating oneself to the schedules of others.

Additionally another benefit accrued through my atypical behaviour. During those years, I was able at times to work for three days straight without a break for anything but food (this work was generally heavy physical labor necessitated by the exigencies of business, paperwork was always postponed until it was convenient). When the work session was ended, I would characteristically sleep in an apparent comatose condition for 24-36 hours.

In my opinion, this is probably close to the natural sleep pattern of ancient paleolithic humans who might have been &quot;at the edge&quot; both in procurement of foodstuffs and in avoidance of predators. Sleep would have been a necessity (for brain maintenance) but also something that could be done at almost any time especially with a full belly and a safe place to nod off.

Many other animals also use the same type of sleep patterns showing perhaps that this is necessary to survival in and to thriving in hostile environments.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have absolutely no restrictions on my time, no where I must be, no one to see&#8230;etc., and I also keep a written record of my activivities, diet, etc. I sleep when I feel like it, I wake up when I feel like it.</p>
<p>The majority of my sleeps are about 90 minutes with an average of a bit less than once a day at four to six hours, the usual total for 24 hours being about 7-8 hours. About once every two weeks, I may not sleep any for up to 36 hours and then drop off for 8-12 hours straight.</p>
<p>I am now retired, but had been self-employed in business for 40 years where I made my own rules and own schedule. Work for the week was usually done in 2-3 days each week by working &#8217;til tired, then sleeping for 2-4 hours, then working &#8217;til tired again. This allowed me to have 4-5 days of free time each week, a real benefit of a loose sleep schedule triggered by actual need or tiredness, and not by routine, habit, or the necessity of accommodating oneself to the schedules of others.</p>
<p>Additionally another benefit accrued through my atypical behaviour. During those years, I was able at times to work for three days straight without a break for anything but food (this work was generally heavy physical labor necessitated by the exigencies of business, paperwork was always postponed until it was convenient). When the work session was ended, I would characteristically sleep in an apparent comatose condition for 24-36 hours.</p>
<p>In my opinion, this is probably close to the natural sleep pattern of ancient paleolithic humans who might have been &#8220;at the edge&#8221; both in procurement of foodstuffs and in avoidance of predators. Sleep would have been a necessity (for brain maintenance) but also something that could be done at almost any time especially with a full belly and a safe place to nod off.</p>
<p>Many other animals also use the same type of sleep patterns showing perhaps that this is necessary to survival in and to thriving in hostile environments.</p>
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		<title>By: Zoe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zoe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jul 2011 21:53:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@1 ... my thoughts exactly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@1 &#8230; my thoughts exactly.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin Sweeney</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/notrocketscience/2011/07/25/genetic-snooze-button-shows-that-broken-sleep-impairs-memories/#comment-12611</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin Sweeney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jul 2011 16:37:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sleep is really fascinating. Many people take it for granted that we are supposed to sleep all through the night and stay up all day but it sounds like that was more a product of the industrial revolution. I am very interested in studies that probe into discovering the most effective sleep cycles, not that they would be the same for everyone!
I mean, I sleep well when I don&#039;t stay up all night doing any of various things, but I&#039;m sure I could be doing it better!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sleep is really fascinating. Many people take it for granted that we are supposed to sleep all through the night and stay up all day but it sounds like that was more a product of the industrial revolution. I am very interested in studies that probe into discovering the most effective sleep cycles, not that they would be the same for everyone!<br />
I mean, I sleep well when I don&#8217;t stay up all night doing any of various things, but I&#8217;m sure I could be doing it better!</p>
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		<title>By: Jaime Headden</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jaime Headden</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jul 2011 15:35:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ed wrote:
&lt;blockquote&gt;This suggests that mice need to sleep for between one and two minutes straight, if they are to consolidate newly formed memories. It’s hard to say what the equivalent amount of time is for humans. Mice tend to have short sleep cycles of around 9 minutes, while the equivalent for a human is 90 minutes.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I suspect the experiment to test the reactiveness and retentiveness of humans on the scale done for mice borders on what might be considered cruel and inhuman ... I&#039;m sure it&#039;s lots of fun, much like Venkman&#039;s and Spengler&#039;s experiments in the Ghostbusters movies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ed wrote:</p>
<blockquote><p>This suggests that mice need to sleep for between one and two minutes straight, if they are to consolidate newly formed memories. It’s hard to say what the equivalent amount of time is for humans. Mice tend to have short sleep cycles of around 9 minutes, while the equivalent for a human is 90 minutes.</p></blockquote>
<p>I suspect the experiment to test the reactiveness and retentiveness of humans on the scale done for mice borders on what might be considered cruel and inhuman &#8230; I&#8217;m sure it&#8217;s lots of fun, much like Venkman&#8217;s and Spengler&#8217;s experiments in the Ghostbusters movies.</p>
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		<title>By: Ed Yong</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ed Yong</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jul 2011 21:04:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Who said anything about 8 hours?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Who said anything about 8 hours?</p>
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		<title>By: Pawel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pawel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jul 2011 20:34:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We don&#039;t have to sleep 8 hours in a row to archive maximum benefit of the sleep time. Studies have shown that different sleep patterns are equally effective:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polyphasic_sleep</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We don&#8217;t have to sleep 8 hours in a row to archive maximum benefit of the sleep time. Studies have shown that different sleep patterns are equally effective:</p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polyphasic_sleep" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polyphasic_sleep</a></p>
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		<title>By: Josh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Josh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jul 2011 20:13:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Parenthood is a mental disorder?  I&#039;d buy that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Parenthood is a mental disorder?  I&#8217;d buy that.</p>
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