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		<title>By: Dopil</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dopil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Sep 2011 16:05:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I precisely needed to thank you so much once more. I&#039;m not certain the things I might have sorted out in the absence of the actual concepts revealed by you regarding my area. It became a troublesome matter for me personally, nevertheless observing the very skilled form you processed the issue made me to cry for contentment. Now i am grateful for this advice and thus wish you recognize what a powerful job you&#039;re accomplishing educating some other people with the aid of a web site. More than likely you have never come across all of us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I precisely needed to thank you so much once more. I&#8217;m not certain the things I might have sorted out in the absence of the actual concepts revealed by you regarding my area. It became a troublesome matter for me personally, nevertheless observing the very skilled form you processed the issue made me to cry for contentment. Now i am grateful for this advice and thus wish you recognize what a powerful job you&#8217;re accomplishing educating some other people with the aid of a web site. More than likely you have never come across all of us.</p>
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		<title>By: PatrikD</title>
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		<dc:creator>PatrikD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Aug 2011 02:13:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Note that this is actually a continuation of a 2008 iGEM project. From undergrad project to a paper in a Nature journal - not bad!

http://2008.igem.org/Team:NTU-Singapore</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Note that this is actually a continuation of a 2008 iGEM project. From undergrad project to a paper in a Nature journal &#8211; not bad!</p>
<p><a href="http://2008.igem.org/Team:NTU-Singapore" rel="nofollow">http://2008.igem.org/Team:NTU-Singapore</a></p>
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		<title>By: Troy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Troy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Aug 2011 18:56:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>this is definitely some exciting genetic engineering!  However, you are killing two Gram-negative bacteria, Pseudomonas and E. coli.  Depending on the concentration of both bacterial populations, endotoxic shock in your patients would definitely be a concern I would think besides what Jeremy said about pyocin mediated inflammation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>this is definitely some exciting genetic engineering!  However, you are killing two Gram-negative bacteria, Pseudomonas and E. coli.  Depending on the concentration of both bacterial populations, endotoxic shock in your patients would definitely be a concern I would think besides what Jeremy said about pyocin mediated inflammation.</p>
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		<title>By: D</title>
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		<dc:creator>D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Aug 2011 10:39:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is dangerous research. The outcome is hard to predict.

What happens if the suicide bacteria attack beneficial bacteria in our gut or the gut of cows.

All we need to do is to look at how Monsanto&#039;s gene has migrated to understand the potential for this to get out of hand.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is dangerous research. The outcome is hard to predict.</p>
<p>What happens if the suicide bacteria attack beneficial bacteria in our gut or the gut of cows.</p>
<p>All we need to do is to look at how Monsanto&#8217;s gene has migrated to understand the potential for this to get out of hand.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeremy Choo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeremy Choo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Aug 2011 08:35:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Ed, I&#039;m with Drew on this one, sure, E. coli is a commensal, but Pseuds are also commonly found everywhere as well (its a very common soil bacteria), I&#039;m sure most of us come into contact with it daily. Pseuds usually cause opportunistic infections in immuno-compromised people such as CF patients or post-surgery patients and healthy individuals are usually safe from it.

I agree that &quot;some&quot; of the virus in phage therapy will be eliminated by our host immune system but not all of them, there are viruses which are designed with human protein coating (camouflage of sorts) which will trick the host immune system into recognizing it as a host cell, it could then proceed to do its work in targeting its cell of interest. These viruses are currently used in a lot of phage therapy studies in targeting bacterial cells and also host cells in counteracting genetic diseases.

Another aspect of this study is the reliance of the expression of pyocin towards LasR, which is one of the quorum sensing molecules in Pseuds. LasR is used by bacteria to control their gene expression under the influence of cell-population density. It enables the coordination and synchronization of the activities of a large group of bacterial cells in an environment such as a biofilm. So LasR is required in a large concentration to be able to trigger the production of the pyocin in the E. coli and for that the researchers must make sure that the E. coli must travel to the site of infection (biofilm) in order for the E. coli to work its magic.

Besides that, we wouldn&#039;t know what will happen to the E. coli after it enters our body, will it travel to the site of infection? Will it cause a drastic change in our gut microflora which will lead to other unforseen infections? Moreover, the pyocin released during the lysis of the E. coli might also be a concern as it might trigger an immune response as well, so there are still lots to think about in the in vivo aspect of this study.

There are still a lot more factors to consider besides the ones I&#039;ve mentioned here before an in vivo study could be carried out as it is not as straight forward as it seems. But it is still a step forward in our battle against antibiotic resistant bacterias.

Cheers!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Ed, I&#8217;m with Drew on this one, sure, E. coli is a commensal, but Pseuds are also commonly found everywhere as well (its a very common soil bacteria), I&#8217;m sure most of us come into contact with it daily. Pseuds usually cause opportunistic infections in immuno-compromised people such as CF patients or post-surgery patients and healthy individuals are usually safe from it.</p>
<p>I agree that &#8220;some&#8221; of the virus in phage therapy will be eliminated by our host immune system but not all of them, there are viruses which are designed with human protein coating (camouflage of sorts) which will trick the host immune system into recognizing it as a host cell, it could then proceed to do its work in targeting its cell of interest. These viruses are currently used in a lot of phage therapy studies in targeting bacterial cells and also host cells in counteracting genetic diseases.</p>
<p>Another aspect of this study is the reliance of the expression of pyocin towards LasR, which is one of the quorum sensing molecules in Pseuds. LasR is used by bacteria to control their gene expression under the influence of cell-population density. It enables the coordination and synchronization of the activities of a large group of bacterial cells in an environment such as a biofilm. So LasR is required in a large concentration to be able to trigger the production of the pyocin in the E. coli and for that the researchers must make sure that the E. coli must travel to the site of infection (biofilm) in order for the E. coli to work its magic.</p>
<p>Besides that, we wouldn&#8217;t know what will happen to the E. coli after it enters our body, will it travel to the site of infection? Will it cause a drastic change in our gut microflora which will lead to other unforseen infections? Moreover, the pyocin released during the lysis of the E. coli might also be a concern as it might trigger an immune response as well, so there are still lots to think about in the in vivo aspect of this study.</p>
<p>There are still a lot more factors to consider besides the ones I&#8217;ve mentioned here before an in vivo study could be carried out as it is not as straight forward as it seems. But it is still a step forward in our battle against antibiotic resistant bacterias.</p>
<p>Cheers!</p>
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		<title>By: Zach Miller</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zach Miller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Aug 2011 20:03:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is incredibly exciting for CF patients like me. Almost all CF patients eventually come down with chronic P. aeruginosa, and there aren&#039;t too many treatment options. I keep my infection &quot;down&quot; with inhaled Tobi, taken via nebulizer. But when flare-ups occur, I get a PICCline IV with liquid Tobramyacine. Fun!

I&#039;m entering a drug study for something called M-Pex, which is a similar type of inhaled solution but it doesn&#039;t take as long and is supposedly more effective than inhaled Tobi. Still, any news of a new weapon against Pa is pretty awesome. I&#039;ll have to ask my doctor about this and see what he thinks of it.

Thanks for the head&#039;s up, Ed!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is incredibly exciting for CF patients like me. Almost all CF patients eventually come down with chronic P. aeruginosa, and there aren&#8217;t too many treatment options. I keep my infection &#8220;down&#8221; with inhaled Tobi, taken via nebulizer. But when flare-ups occur, I get a PICCline IV with liquid Tobramyacine. Fun!</p>
<p>I&#8217;m entering a drug study for something called M-Pex, which is a similar type of inhaled solution but it doesn&#8217;t take as long and is supposedly more effective than inhaled Tobi. Still, any news of a new weapon against Pa is pretty awesome. I&#8217;ll have to ask my doctor about this and see what he thinks of it.</p>
<p>Thanks for the head&#8217;s up, Ed!</p>
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		<title>By: Drew</title>
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		<dc:creator>Drew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Aug 2011 19:16:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Ed-E.  coli is a common commensal but that doesn&#039;t mean that it wouldn&#039;t be targeted by host immune processes.  E. coli leakage from the gut for example elicits a response, as does E. coli in the bloodstream.

However, the bigger picture here is that patients with significant Pa infections usually don&#039;t have sufficient immune systems to properly deal with invading pathogens anyway (e.g. CF patients don&#039;t tend to mount good responses in lungs which is why Pa films flourish there in the first place).

Additionally, could you provide some links to papers demonstrating &quot;It can only be used once – after that, the host developed antibodies against the viruses&quot;.  I&#039;m curious if any of those works were performed in immune-suppressed animals (the nature of Pa infections suggests that most Pa patients would be immune-suppressed in some manner, i.e. burn, trauma, sepsis, CF, etc); I could understand though how that might be an issue in healthy individuals.  The reason I ask is that I have a feeling that having all those PAMPs floating around in sensitive tissues would be a bad idea (SIRS and shock risks) and I tend to think that phage would be a safer route.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Ed-E.  coli is a common commensal but that doesn&#8217;t mean that it wouldn&#8217;t be targeted by host immune processes.  E. coli leakage from the gut for example elicits a response, as does E. coli in the bloodstream.</p>
<p>However, the bigger picture here is that patients with significant Pa infections usually don&#8217;t have sufficient immune systems to properly deal with invading pathogens anyway (e.g. CF patients don&#8217;t tend to mount good responses in lungs which is why Pa films flourish there in the first place).</p>
<p>Additionally, could you provide some links to papers demonstrating &#8220;It can only be used once – after that, the host developed antibodies against the viruses&#8221;.  I&#8217;m curious if any of those works were performed in immune-suppressed animals (the nature of Pa infections suggests that most Pa patients would be immune-suppressed in some manner, i.e. burn, trauma, sepsis, CF, etc); I could understand though how that might be an issue in healthy individuals.  The reason I ask is that I have a feeling that having all those PAMPs floating around in sensitive tissues would be a bad idea (SIRS and shock risks) and I tend to think that phage would be a safer route.</p>
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		<title>By: Alex</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Aug 2011 19:16:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Intriguing and exciting but I wonder how long before P.aeruginosa adapt to use different molecules to communicate with one another that LasR won&#039;t detect.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Intriguing and exciting but I wonder how long before P.aeruginosa adapt to use different molecules to communicate with one another that LasR won&#8217;t detect.</p>
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		<title>By: Ed Yong</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ed Yong</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Aug 2011 18:14:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Preston - bit of both. Look at a burst cell under an electron microscope and it basically looks like a popped water balloon with dark matter flowing out from in.

@Amphiox - Surely E.coli is a common enough commensal that this isn&#039;t really a big problem.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Preston &#8211; bit of both. Look at a burst cell under an electron microscope and it basically looks like a popped water balloon with dark matter flowing out from in.</p>
<p>@Amphiox &#8211; Surely E.coli is a common enough commensal that this isn&#8217;t really a big problem.</p>
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		<title>By: amphiox</title>
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		<dc:creator>amphiox</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Aug 2011 18:05:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In living hosts, they&#039;re going to have to get around the obstacle of the host immunity targeting and eliminating the E. coli.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In living hosts, they&#8217;re going to have to get around the obstacle of the host immunity targeting and eliminating the E. coli.</p>
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