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	<title>Comments on: Hummingbirds dive to sing with their tails</title>
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		<title>By: Hugh</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/notrocketscience/2011/09/08/hummingbirds-dive-to-sing-with-their-tails/comment-page-1/#comment-56418</link>
		<dc:creator>Hugh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Sep 2011 14:09:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>excellent point donK... not Don Kroodsma by any chance??</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>excellent point donK&#8230; not Don Kroodsma by any chance??</p>
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		<title>By: donK</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/notrocketscience/2011/09/08/hummingbirds-dive-to-sing-with-their-tails/comment-page-1/#comment-55886</link>
		<dc:creator>donK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Sep 2011 17:37:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Loud means loud and not strong.   You mention several ways hummingbirds can and do make louder sounds that don&#039;t actually require strength.   Tiny changes in the feather weight, stiffness, size and shape can greatly change the pitch and volume of the sounds they create.  Dive heights between 5 and 40 metres coupled with specialized harmonic feathers seems to show that what is being selected for is not strength of muscle but strength of signal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Loud means loud and not strong.   You mention several ways hummingbirds can and do make louder sounds that don&#8217;t actually require strength.   Tiny changes in the feather weight, stiffness, size and shape can greatly change the pitch and volume of the sounds they create.  Dive heights between 5 and 40 metres coupled with specialized harmonic feathers seems to show that what is being selected for is not strength of muscle but strength of signal.</p>
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		<title>By: Anthony</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anthony</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Sep 2011 02:22:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Glad to see others shooting videos of hummingbirds! I shot some video this weekend of hummingbirds at my feeders. Enjoy! http://www.flickr.com/photos/anthonygamboa/6137799308/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Glad to see others shooting videos of hummingbirds! I shot some video this weekend of hummingbirds at my feeders. Enjoy! <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/anthonygamboa/6137799308/" rel="nofollow">http://www.flickr.com/photos/anthonygamboa/6137799308/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Whatever</title>
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		<dc:creator>Whatever</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Sep 2011 17:20:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Michelle: The birds lose tail feathers naturally all the time, so it&#039;s not a real hardship. they grow back in a couple weeks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Michelle: The birds lose tail feathers naturally all the time, so it&#8217;s not a real hardship. they grow back in a couple weeks.</p>
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		<title>By: Michelle</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/notrocketscience/2011/09/08/hummingbirds-dive-to-sing-with-their-tails/comment-page-1/#comment-55672</link>
		<dc:creator>Michelle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Sep 2011 21:59:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Too bad birds had to lose their tails to satisfy the curiosity of a scientist. I hope they didn&#039;t try their fancy dives when their tails were shorn and were aware enough to wait until they grew back.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Too bad birds had to lose their tails to satisfy the curiosity of a scientist. I hope they didn&#8217;t try their fancy dives when their tails were shorn and were aware enough to wait until they grew back.</p>
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		<title>By: Phyllograptus</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/notrocketscience/2011/09/08/hummingbirds-dive-to-sing-with-their-tails/comment-page-1/#comment-55645</link>
		<dc:creator>Phyllograptus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Sep 2011 15:33:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A wonderful article. In addition to just the speed of the dive to create the noise, the different species also have a differing dive path shape. I can&#039;t remember which one does which, but one has a Tight J shaped dive path and the other has more of a broad U shaped dive path</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A wonderful article. In addition to just the speed of the dive to create the noise, the different species also have a differing dive path shape. I can&#8217;t remember which one does which, but one has a Tight J shaped dive path and the other has more of a broad U shaped dive path</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan Eisen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jonathan Eisen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Sep 2011 20:28:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My first field work was studying hummingbirds at the Rocky Mountain Biological Laboratory (RMBL) in Colorado with William A. Calder III. One of the things we were studying was the noises made by the male broad tail hummingbirds ... Digging out some pics here: https://picasaweb.google.com/jonathan.eisen/HummingbirdStudiesRMBL1988?authuser=0&amp;feat=directlink</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My first field work was studying hummingbirds at the Rocky Mountain Biological Laboratory (RMBL) in Colorado with William A. Calder III. One of the things we were studying was the noises made by the male broad tail hummingbirds &#8230; Digging out some pics here: <a href="https://picasaweb.google.com/jonathan.eisen/HummingbirdStudiesRMBL1988?authuser=0&#038;feat=directlink" rel="nofollow">https://picasaweb.google.com/jonathan.eisen/HummingbirdStudiesRMBL1988?authuser=0&#038;feat=directlink</a></p>
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		<title>By: LeslieL</title>
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		<dc:creator>LeslieL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Sep 2011 14:59:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When we lived in Creston, in southeastern British Columbia, we delighted in the shows male rufous hummingbirds put on for their ladies. They flew in huge figure-8 arcs with the crossover point at the bottom, 10-20 m below the top. I thought the sound they made at the bottom was kind of like the involuntary grunt you&#039;d make if you were on a roller-coaster as the g-forces hit at the bottom of its run. Tail feather flutter makes sense, though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When we lived in Creston, in southeastern British Columbia, we delighted in the shows male rufous hummingbirds put on for their ladies. They flew in huge figure-8 arcs with the crossover point at the bottom, 10-20 m below the top. I thought the sound they made at the bottom was kind of like the involuntary grunt you&#8217;d make if you were on a roller-coaster as the g-forces hit at the bottom of its run. Tail feather flutter makes sense, though.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Sherry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff Sherry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Sep 2011 14:21:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fascinating. Isn&#039;t the tail futtering sounds/songs also used for food territories?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fascinating. Isn&#8217;t the tail futtering sounds/songs also used for food territories?</p>
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		<title>By: CarlosT</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/notrocketscience/2011/09/08/hummingbirds-dive-to-sing-with-their-tails/comment-page-1/#comment-55423</link>
		<dc:creator>CarlosT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Sep 2011 22:31:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tacoma, not Tahoma.  Tahoma is the native name for Mount Rainier, but the city and the bridge got the corrupted version.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tacoma, not Tahoma.  Tahoma is the native name for Mount Rainier, but the city and the bridge got the corrupted version.</p>
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