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	<title>Comments on: Jumping spiders use blurry vision to judge distance</title>
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		<title>By: Marisano James</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/notrocketscience/2012/01/26/jumping-spiders-use-blurry-vision-to-judge-distance/#comment-14194</link>
		<dc:creator>Marisano James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Apr 2012 22:01:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting. But your article contains at least a two errors. First, scientists have known about the four layers of jumping spider eyes since Land&#039;s most excellent 1969 paper, &quot;Structure of the Retinae of the Principal Eyes of Jumping Spiders (Salticidae: Dendryphantinae) in Relation to Visual Optics.&quot;

Second, those AM eyes (the two large central eyes) have visual fields that do indeed overlap. (Just look at them! Though a problem could be at what object distance.) More to the point, Land goes on to state, &quot;The eye tubes pivot about the regions immediately behind the lenses, and a set of six eye muscles permits each retina to move vertically, laterally or obliquely in one plane, and in addition the retinae can be rotated about the visual axes.&quot; That is, jumping spiders can change the field of view - even to the point of rotating it - of the their AM eyes not by moving the entirety of the eyes (which presents problems for animals with exoskeletons), but instead by moving the retinae behind the lenses.

In a section of his paper entitled, &quot;Why several layers?&quot; Land even anticipated this usage of the separate layers:
&quot;(a) The several receptor layers act in lieu of a focusing system, the animal using one or another layer to examine objects at different distances from it.&quot;
or
&quot;(b) Each receptor layer contains a different photopigment and is situated in a plane containing the best image for light of the wavelength of maximum absorption of that pigment.&quot;


It is therefore quite likely that jumping spiders possess more than one means of assessing the distance of objects (i.e. via blur, as well as potentially by differential movement of near and far objects, and/or stereoscopic comparison).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting. But your article contains at least a two errors. First, scientists have known about the four layers of jumping spider eyes since Land&#8217;s most excellent 1969 paper, &#8220;Structure of the Retinae of the Principal Eyes of Jumping Spiders (Salticidae: Dendryphantinae) in Relation to Visual Optics.&#8221;</p>
<p>Second, those AM eyes (the two large central eyes) have visual fields that do indeed overlap. (Just look at them! Though a problem could be at what object distance.) More to the point, Land goes on to state, &#8220;The eye tubes pivot about the regions immediately behind the lenses, and a set of six eye muscles permits each retina to move vertically, laterally or obliquely in one plane, and in addition the retinae can be rotated about the visual axes.&#8221; That is, jumping spiders can change the field of view &#8211; even to the point of rotating it &#8211; of the their AM eyes not by moving the entirety of the eyes (which presents problems for animals with exoskeletons), but instead by moving the retinae behind the lenses.</p>
<p>In a section of his paper entitled, &#8220;Why several layers?&#8221; Land even anticipated this usage of the separate layers:<br />
&#8220;(a) The several receptor layers act in lieu of a focusing system, the animal using one or another layer to examine objects at different distances from it.&#8221;<br />
or<br />
&#8220;(b) Each receptor layer contains a different photopigment and is situated in a plane containing the best image for light of the wavelength of maximum absorption of that pigment.&#8221;</p>
<p>It is therefore quite likely that jumping spiders possess more than one means of assessing the distance of objects (i.e. via blur, as well as potentially by differential movement of near and far objects, and/or stereoscopic comparison).</p>
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		<title>By: Gretchen Icenogle</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/notrocketscience/2012/01/26/jumping-spiders-use-blurry-vision-to-judge-distance/#comment-14193</link>
		<dc:creator>Gretchen Icenogle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jan 2012 15:01:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow. It&#039;s for stories like these that I have your blog right on my toolbar for easy access. Thank you, Ed!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow. It&#8217;s for stories like these that I have your blog right on my toolbar for easy access. Thank you, Ed!</p>
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		<title>By: Ed Yong</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/notrocketscience/2012/01/26/jumping-spiders-use-blurry-vision-to-judge-distance/#comment-14192</link>
		<dc:creator>Ed Yong</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jan 2012 22:42:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, I link to Shahan&#039;s bit in NatGeo from &quot;&quot;and rather beautiful&quot; ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, I link to Shahan&#8217;s bit in NatGeo from &#8220;&#8221;and rather beautiful&#8221; <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/notrocketscience/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Alex Wild</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/notrocketscience/2012/01/26/jumping-spiders-use-blurry-vision-to-judge-distance/#comment-14191</link>
		<dc:creator>Alex Wild</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jan 2012 22:05:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the link, Ed.

The photo at the top is my pallid attempt to imitate the style of artist Thomas Shahan, whose work remains the gold-standard in the, um, burgeoning field of spider portraiture:

&lt;a href=&quot;http://blogs.scientificamerican.com/compound-eye/2012/01/26/real-life-spiderman-thomas-shahan/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Real-life spiderman&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the link, Ed.</p>
<p>The photo at the top is my pallid attempt to imitate the style of artist Thomas Shahan, whose work remains the gold-standard in the, um, burgeoning field of spider portraiture:</p>
<p><a href="http://blogs.scientificamerican.com/compound-eye/2012/01/26/real-life-spiderman-thomas-shahan/" rel="nofollow">Real-life spiderman</a></p>
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		<title>By: Zach Miller</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/notrocketscience/2012/01/26/jumping-spiders-use-blurry-vision-to-judge-distance/#comment-14190</link>
		<dc:creator>Zach Miller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jan 2012 20:17:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No love for trilobites? Their calcite-derived compound eyes came in a variety of forms, perhaps the strangest being &lt;em&gt;Erbenochile&lt;/em&gt;. It&#039;s eyes are extremely tall and rounded, allowing the animal to see in 360 degrees on the horizontal plane and a respectable vertical area as well. Even stranger, the eyes have built-in eyeshades, blocking glare and suggesting that it was diurnal or nocturnal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No love for trilobites? Their calcite-derived compound eyes came in a variety of forms, perhaps the strangest being <em>Erbenochile</em>. It&#8217;s eyes are extremely tall and rounded, allowing the animal to see in 360 degrees on the horizontal plane and a respectable vertical area as well. Even stranger, the eyes have built-in eyeshades, blocking glare and suggesting that it was diurnal or nocturnal.</p>
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