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	<title>Comments on: How mantis shrimps deliver armour-shattering punches without breaking their fists</title>
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		<title>By: Abe Belhassen</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/notrocketscience/2012/06/07/how-mantis-shrimps-deliver-armour-shattering-punches-without-breaking-their-fists/#comment-15144</link>
		<dc:creator>Abe Belhassen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Oct 2012 22:03:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Dominic Brown:  When they referred to human structures, the reference may have been to human parts, such as bones.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Dominic Brown:  When they referred to human structures, the reference may have been to human parts, such as bones.</p>
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		<title>By: Engineering Animals</title>
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		<dc:creator>Engineering Animals</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jun 2012 16:37:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Many animals, including humans, mix mud, dung, straw and hair to make building materials. The straw and hair (indeed any fibrous material) has different mechanical properties to the mud and dung which makes it more resistant to crack propagation: when the crack reaches a length of fibre its force is dissipated or even stopped thus making the material tougher and structures stronger. The straw is added intentionally which is, I suppose, an example of the evolution of a beneficial behavioural adaptation. The mantis shrimp&#039;s claw is basically the same &quot;idea&quot; but actually developed within the structure of the animal itself. Ain&#039;t evolution wunnerful?

Incidentally, I love the way you use a sentence like: &quot;This structure is adapted to stop cracks from spreading through the club.&quot; A sloppier writer, like me, would just have used the word &quot;designed&quot; because it is &quot;easier&quot; English to write. &quot;Adapted&quot; is not only more accurate but fits the flow of words perfectly. In future, biologists should all make a point of saying &quot;adapted&quot; instead of &quot;designed&quot; just to make their meaning absolutely clear.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Many animals, including humans, mix mud, dung, straw and hair to make building materials. The straw and hair (indeed any fibrous material) has different mechanical properties to the mud and dung which makes it more resistant to crack propagation: when the crack reaches a length of fibre its force is dissipated or even stopped thus making the material tougher and structures stronger. The straw is added intentionally which is, I suppose, an example of the evolution of a beneficial behavioural adaptation. The mantis shrimp&#8217;s claw is basically the same &#8220;idea&#8221; but actually developed within the structure of the animal itself. Ain&#8217;t evolution wunnerful?</p>
<p>Incidentally, I love the way you use a sentence like: &#8220;This structure is adapted to stop cracks from spreading through the club.&#8221; A sloppier writer, like me, would just have used the word &#8220;designed&#8221; because it is &#8220;easier&#8221; English to write. &#8220;Adapted&#8221; is not only more accurate but fits the flow of words perfectly. In future, biologists should all make a point of saying &#8220;adapted&#8221; instead of &#8220;designed&#8221; just to make their meaning absolutely clear.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Too</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/notrocketscience/2012/06/07/how-mantis-shrimps-deliver-armour-shattering-punches-without-breaking-their-fists/#comment-15142</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian Too</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jun 2012 23:31:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m pretty sure I&#039;ve read that horses hooves and abalone shells also have remarkable internal strutures that create both great strength and crack resistance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m pretty sure I&#8217;ve read that horses hooves and abalone shells also have remarkable internal strutures that create both great strength and crack resistance.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Evelo</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/notrocketscience/2012/06/07/how-mantis-shrimps-deliver-armour-shattering-punches-without-breaking-their-fists/#comment-15141</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Evelo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jun 2012 20:40:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ohh found one (there are more) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pgvsQ6oNZyo</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ohh found one (there are more) <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pgvsQ6oNZyo" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pgvsQ6oNZyo</a></p>
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		<title>By: Chris Evelo</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/notrocketscience/2012/06/07/how-mantis-shrimps-deliver-armour-shattering-punches-without-breaking-their-fists/#comment-15140</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Evelo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jun 2012 20:37:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now you don&#039;t happen to have a movie of that 10,000 g water boiling blow, do you?</description>
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		<title>By: Dominic Brown</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/notrocketscience/2012/06/07/how-mantis-shrimps-deliver-armour-shattering-punches-without-breaking-their-fists/#comment-15139</link>
		<dc:creator>Dominic Brown</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jun 2012 19:50:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very interesting stuff—thanks. One thing though: I don’t think it’s accurate to say ‘Human structures are designed to prevent cracks from forming as far as possible and when they do form, they create catastrophic results.’ Lots of human structures are designed to accommodate and control cracks.

Fibreglass and other fibre composites get much of their toughness from crack-stopping. So do plywood, rip-stop nylon, knit fabrics and felt. The staggered pattern of brickwork is designed to divert and control cracking, whether in a vertical wall or in a paved sidewalk. (Bricklayers are conscious of this, and take steps to prevent cracks ‘running’ in places where the bond-pattern has to break, as at a door frame.) Reinforced concrete is reinforced only partly to give concrete useful tensile strength—to a large degree it’s there to blunt cracking. (That’s why stucco is applied over chicken-wire nowadays, and not wooden battens.) Wire rope is favoured over chain for many uses, precisely because a crack in one strand cannot propagate across the whole cable. Even spaced tank-armour applies a similar principle, though in compression rather than tension.

Engineers certainly try to avoid cracks in the first place, especially in solid metal objects, but it’s been generations since they accepted catastrophic failure as the price of a crack appearing. The mechanisms have been well understood since A A Griffith’s work in the UK in the 1920s. I read about them first in J E Gordon’s ‘The New Science of Strong Materials’ in the 70s.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very interesting stuff—thanks. One thing though: I don’t think it’s accurate to say ‘Human structures are designed to prevent cracks from forming as far as possible and when they do form, they create catastrophic results.’ Lots of human structures are designed to accommodate and control cracks.</p>
<p>Fibreglass and other fibre composites get much of their toughness from crack-stopping. So do plywood, rip-stop nylon, knit fabrics and felt. The staggered pattern of brickwork is designed to divert and control cracking, whether in a vertical wall or in a paved sidewalk. (Bricklayers are conscious of this, and take steps to prevent cracks ‘running’ in places where the bond-pattern has to break, as at a door frame.) Reinforced concrete is reinforced only partly to give concrete useful tensile strength—to a large degree it’s there to blunt cracking. (That’s why stucco is applied over chicken-wire nowadays, and not wooden battens.) Wire rope is favoured over chain for many uses, precisely because a crack in one strand cannot propagate across the whole cable. Even spaced tank-armour applies a similar principle, though in compression rather than tension.</p>
<p>Engineers certainly try to avoid cracks in the first place, especially in solid metal objects, but it’s been generations since they accepted catastrophic failure as the price of a crack appearing. The mechanisms have been well understood since A A Griffith’s work in the UK in the 1920s. I read about them first in J E Gordon’s ‘The New Science of Strong Materials’ in the 70s.</p>
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