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	<title>Comments on: The Oxycautioner returns to BBC radio</title>
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		<title>By: Richard C Haven</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/notrocketscience/2012/10/01/the-oxycautioner-returns-to-bbc-radio/#comment-16034</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard C Haven</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Oct 2012 01:10:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Eccentric scientists are everywhere and it’s not your place to criticize anyone for being themselves &quot;

No, it is everyone&#039;s place to criticize anyone who claims to do science.

The Rules of Science:
1. All evidence is share-able
2. Everyone has to say, &quot;But I might be wrong&quot;

Anyone who does not do those things is not doing science. Eccentricism is not a defense.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Eccentric scientists are everywhere and it’s not your place to criticize anyone for being themselves &#8221;</p>
<p>No, it is everyone&#8217;s place to criticize anyone who claims to do science.</p>
<p>The Rules of Science:<br />
1. All evidence is share-able<br />
2. Everyone has to say, &#8220;But I might be wrong&#8221;</p>
<p>Anyone who does not do those things is not doing science. Eccentricism is not a defense.</p>
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		<title>By: Ed Yong</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/notrocketscience/2012/10/01/the-oxycautioner-returns-to-bbc-radio/#comment-16033</link>
		<dc:creator>Ed Yong</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Oct 2012 11:12:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;You dub yourself as a “science writer,” yet don’t do any science yourself&quot;

This is correct. Sadly, the rest of the comment goes a bit downhill.

&quot;There is no scientific evidence that oxytocin somehow causes ethnocentricity (or some other gushing “flip” side) — that language was put in by money and fame hungry people, eager to get published in Nature.&quot;

Shame they got published in &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.pnas.org/content/early/2011/01/06/1015316108&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;PNAS&lt;/a&gt; then. Must&#039;ve been disappointing.

&quot;...(for example, testosterone, that you seem to be overflowing with, kills oxytocin and thus makes you less trusting and more willing to punish others).&quot;

Actually, testosterone promotes antagonism only if people have a stereotyped view of what testosterone does. &lt;a href=&quot;http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/notrocketscience/2009/12/08/prejudice-vs-biology-testosterone-makes-people-more-selfish-but-only-if-they-think-it-does/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt; Otherwise, it actually increases fair play in social games.&lt;/a&gt; Because, y&#039;know, hormones are complicated. Do keep up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;You dub yourself as a “science writer,” yet don’t do any science yourself&#8221;</p>
<p>This is correct. Sadly, the rest of the comment goes a bit downhill.</p>
<p>&#8220;There is no scientific evidence that oxytocin somehow causes ethnocentricity (or some other gushing “flip” side) — that language was put in by money and fame hungry people, eager to get published in Nature.&#8221;</p>
<p>Shame they got published in <a href="http://www.pnas.org/content/early/2011/01/06/1015316108" rel="nofollow">PNAS</a> then. Must&#8217;ve been disappointing.</p>
<p>&#8220;&#8230;(for example, testosterone, that you seem to be overflowing with, kills oxytocin and thus makes you less trusting and more willing to punish others).&#8221;</p>
<p>Actually, testosterone promotes antagonism only if people have a stereotyped view of what testosterone does. <a href="http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/notrocketscience/2009/12/08/prejudice-vs-biology-testosterone-makes-people-more-selfish-but-only-if-they-think-it-does/" rel="nofollow"> Otherwise, it actually increases fair play in social games.</a> Because, y&#8217;know, hormones are complicated. Do keep up.</p>
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		<title>By: ENash</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/notrocketscience/2012/10/01/the-oxycautioner-returns-to-bbc-radio/#comment-16032</link>
		<dc:creator>ENash</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Oct 2012 08:05:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think there&#039;s something wrong with you -- are you just jealous of Zak or something? He has addressed most issues you &quot;rant&quot; about in his recent book. You dub yourself as a &quot;science writer,&quot; yet don&#039;t do any science yourself, nor bother to actually do the diligent research that is required to advance science. There is no scientific evidence that oxytocin somehow causes ethnocentricity (or some other gushing &quot;flip&quot; side) -- that language was put in by money and fame hungry people, eager to get published in Nature.

Eccentric scientists are everywhere and it&#039;s not your place to criticize anyone for being themselves (if he wants to do a field study to England and then talk about it or hug others, then so be it!). I do agree, however, that oxytocin is not a miracle drug, nor will it help everything or everyone. People should NOT rush out and spray their noses with it without educating themselves of the potential effects. That does not mean that it does not play a role in human decision making and, a lot of times, assist in making healthy attachments to others. The hormone is part of our biology, of our bodies; the endogenous effects of it are remarkable. If one is to exogenously try to largely modify it, this can lead to various consequences that are not, by themselves, the faults of the scientists that study it, but instead of those trying to &quot;abuse&quot; the system.

Healthy relationships are something to strive for (these bring happiness!), and by reaching out, one may organically train the brain to release more oxytocin on a similar stimulus. This doesn&#039;t mean that we suddenly become over-trusting (at least not most of people), it has been shown that when the other person is perceived as un-trustworthy, spraying more oxytocin does not increase trust. But if it proves that oxytocin is a variable in creating a happy environment (even for a short while), then it&#039;s worth exploring other things that may induce that outcome, along with things that interact with oxytocin (for example, testosterone, that you seem to be overflowing with, kills oxytocin and thus makes you less trusting and more willing to punish others).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think there&#8217;s something wrong with you &#8212; are you just jealous of Zak or something? He has addressed most issues you &#8220;rant&#8221; about in his recent book. You dub yourself as a &#8220;science writer,&#8221; yet don&#8217;t do any science yourself, nor bother to actually do the diligent research that is required to advance science. There is no scientific evidence that oxytocin somehow causes ethnocentricity (or some other gushing &#8220;flip&#8221; side) &#8212; that language was put in by money and fame hungry people, eager to get published in Nature.</p>
<p>Eccentric scientists are everywhere and it&#8217;s not your place to criticize anyone for being themselves (if he wants to do a field study to England and then talk about it or hug others, then so be it!). I do agree, however, that oxytocin is not a miracle drug, nor will it help everything or everyone. People should NOT rush out and spray their noses with it without educating themselves of the potential effects. That does not mean that it does not play a role in human decision making and, a lot of times, assist in making healthy attachments to others. The hormone is part of our biology, of our bodies; the endogenous effects of it are remarkable. If one is to exogenously try to largely modify it, this can lead to various consequences that are not, by themselves, the faults of the scientists that study it, but instead of those trying to &#8220;abuse&#8221; the system.</p>
<p>Healthy relationships are something to strive for (these bring happiness!), and by reaching out, one may organically train the brain to release more oxytocin on a similar stimulus. This doesn&#8217;t mean that we suddenly become over-trusting (at least not most of people), it has been shown that when the other person is perceived as un-trustworthy, spraying more oxytocin does not increase trust. But if it proves that oxytocin is a variable in creating a happy environment (even for a short while), then it&#8217;s worth exploring other things that may induce that outcome, along with things that interact with oxytocin (for example, testosterone, that you seem to be overflowing with, kills oxytocin and thus makes you less trusting and more willing to punish others).</p>
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