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		<title>By: liv</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/notrocketscience/2012/10/20/ive-got-your-missing-links-right-here-20-october-2012/#comment-16212</link>
		<dc:creator>liv</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Oct 2012 04:18:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello again,

@Ed-A couple links below, first of particular relevance:

http://businessmirror.com.ph/home/opinion/33530-did-natgeo-man-misrepresent-himself
http://www.sunstar.com.ph/breaking-news/2012/09/25/palma-ivory-trade-church-respects-creation-244743

@ labellaflora: I completely agree that people need to pay attention, and with the recent spate of articles and attention, increasingly people are.

However, To state that &quot;ETIS has not done its job&quot;  I think reflects a misunderstanding of what ETIS is. ETIS is the Elephant Trade Information System: it is an ivory trade monitoring tool operated on behalf of the CITES parties (that is, the countries/signatories to this convention) by TRAFFIC, the wildlife trade monitoring NGO. Information on trade is collected and collated within the database to monitor trends in trade. This information is made available to the parties, including elephant range states in Africa and Asia, to assist their enforcement efforts. ETIS, like CITES and TRAFFIC, has no enforcement capacity, rather, their role is support range states in creating local capacity to protect their wildlife and enforce their legislation.

So, to state that ETIS has not done its job is untrue. This trade continues because of overwhelming demand in China (in particular), a lack of enforcement capacity in range states and probably corruption. So, who do you point the finger at-the 30 something middle classes in East Asia, primarily driving demand, for whom its cool to own ivory trinkets? the rangers in East, Central and Southern Africa who fail, often through no fault of their own, to stop poaching? Air and seaport cargo staff who can check  &lt;5% of cargo passing their way? corrupt officials? the general public for not knowing and not doing enough?

The fact is that all of the above are responsible, and all to blame. But pointing fingers is, well, pointless. This is a global, complex, multi-faceted problem which requires some money, innovation, varied approaches and, ultimately, will. Although we are trying, thsi battle is being lost, something which applies generally across the board for conservation and biodiversity, I fear.

 Getting back to the point at hand-the natgeo article- its great that this piece has brought attention to this issue. That is not in dispute. But many articles have been written in big, well renowned publications on ivory trade for the last year. The issue is whether the information presented therein is factually true and was ethically obtained. I maintain that, in its entirety,  it is/was not. Furthermore, there is the question of whether this was willfully done to make it stand out from the rest (links below, if anyone is interested).

http://www.vanityfair.com/culture/features/2011/08/elephants-201108
http://world.time.com/2012/10/15/blood-ivory-hong-kong-fights-a-losing-battle-against-smugglers/
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/09/04/world/africa/africas-elephants-are-being-slaughtered-in-poaching-frenzy.html?pagewanted=all&amp;_r=0</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello again,</p>
<p>@Ed-A couple links below, first of particular relevance:</p>
<p><a href="http://businessmirror.com.ph/home/opinion/33530-did-natgeo-man-misrepresent-himself" rel="nofollow">http://businessmirror.com.ph/home/opinion/33530-did-natgeo-man-misrepresent-himself</a><br />
<a href="http://www.sunstar.com.ph/breaking-news/2012/09/25/palma-ivory-trade-church-respects-creation-244743" rel="nofollow">http://www.sunstar.com.ph/breaking-news/2012/09/25/palma-ivory-trade-church-respects-creation-244743</a></p>
<p>@ labellaflora: I completely agree that people need to pay attention, and with the recent spate of articles and attention, increasingly people are.</p>
<p>However, To state that &#8220;ETIS has not done its job&#8221;  I think reflects a misunderstanding of what ETIS is. ETIS is the Elephant Trade Information System: it is an ivory trade monitoring tool operated on behalf of the CITES parties (that is, the countries/signatories to this convention) by TRAFFIC, the wildlife trade monitoring NGO. Information on trade is collected and collated within the database to monitor trends in trade. This information is made available to the parties, including elephant range states in Africa and Asia, to assist their enforcement efforts. ETIS, like CITES and TRAFFIC, has no enforcement capacity, rather, their role is support range states in creating local capacity to protect their wildlife and enforce their legislation.</p>
<p>So, to state that ETIS has not done its job is untrue. This trade continues because of overwhelming demand in China (in particular), a lack of enforcement capacity in range states and probably corruption. So, who do you point the finger at-the 30 something middle classes in East Asia, primarily driving demand, for whom its cool to own ivory trinkets? the rangers in East, Central and Southern Africa who fail, often through no fault of their own, to stop poaching? Air and seaport cargo staff who can check  &lt;5% of cargo passing their way? corrupt officials? the general public for not knowing and not doing enough?</p>
<p>The fact is that all of the above are responsible, and all to blame. But pointing fingers is, well, pointless. This is a global, complex, multi-faceted problem which requires some money, innovation, varied approaches and, ultimately, will. Although we are trying, thsi battle is being lost, something which applies generally across the board for conservation and biodiversity, I fear.</p>
<p> Getting back to the point at hand-the natgeo article- its great that this piece has brought attention to this issue. That is not in dispute. But many articles have been written in big, well renowned publications on ivory trade for the last year. The issue is whether the information presented therein is factually true and was ethically obtained. I maintain that, in its entirety,  it is/was not. Furthermore, there is the question of whether this was willfully done to make it stand out from the rest (links below, if anyone is interested).</p>
<p><a href="http://www.vanityfair.com/culture/features/2011/08/elephants-201108" rel="nofollow">http://www.vanityfair.com/culture/features/2011/08/elephants-201108</a><br />
<a href="http://world.time.com/2012/10/15/blood-ivory-hong-kong-fights-a-losing-battle-against-smugglers/" rel="nofollow">http://world.time.com/2012/10/15/blood-ivory-hong-kong-fights-a-losing-battle-against-smugglers/</a><br />
<a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2012/09/04/world/africa/africas-elephants-are-being-slaughtered-in-poaching-frenzy.html?pagewanted=all&#038;_r=0" rel="nofollow">http://www.nytimes.com/2012/09/04/world/africa/africas-elephants-are-being-slaughtered-in-poaching-frenzy.html?pagewanted=all&#038;_r=0</a></p>
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		<title>By: labellaflora</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/notrocketscience/2012/10/20/ive-got-your-missing-links-right-here-20-october-2012/#comment-16211</link>
		<dc:creator>labellaflora</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Oct 2012 02:30:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@#5 - liv,

I respectfully disagree.  The fact elephants are still being slaughtered by the hundreds shows ETIS has not done their job.  People need to pay attention and Christy&#039;s article does that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@#5 &#8211; liv,</p>
<p>I respectfully disagree.  The fact elephants are still being slaughtered by the hundreds shows ETIS has not done their job.  People need to pay attention and Christy&#8217;s article does that.</p>
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		<title>By: labellaflora</title>
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		<dc:creator>labellaflora</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Oct 2012 02:25:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@#1 - Isabel,
      I&#039;ve read the article.  It&#039;s devistatingly true.  People are using religion to justify their greed and the extermination of elephants...all elephants.  Please read the article.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@#1 &#8211; Isabel,<br />
      I&#8217;ve read the article.  It&#8217;s devistatingly true.  People are using religion to justify their greed and the extermination of elephants&#8230;all elephants.  Please read the article.</p>
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		<title>By: Adrian Morgan</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/notrocketscience/2012/10/20/ive-got-your-missing-links-right-here-20-october-2012/#comment-16209</link>
		<dc:creator>Adrian Morgan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Oct 2012 02:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The missing link pointed out by @oztiger at #4 is &lt;a href=&quot;http://blog.ketyov.com/2012/10/ted-pulls-pseudoscience-talk.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;.

How I found it: (1) Cut-and-paste &quot;&lt;i&gt;TEDx pulls down a notoriously wacky pseudoscience talk.&lt;/i&gt;&quot; into Google. (2) Notice first hit is to tweet by Carl Zimmer. (3) Click on it. (4) Click on link in tweet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The missing link pointed out by @oztiger at #4 is <a href="http://blog.ketyov.com/2012/10/ted-pulls-pseudoscience-talk.html" rel="nofollow">here</a>.</p>
<p>How I found it: (1) Cut-and-paste &#8220;<i>TEDx pulls down a notoriously wacky pseudoscience talk.</i>&#8221; into Google. (2) Notice first hit is to tweet by Carl Zimmer. (3) Click on it. (4) Click on link in tweet.</p>
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		<title>By: Ed Yong</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/notrocketscience/2012/10/20/ive-got-your-missing-links-right-here-20-october-2012/#comment-16208</link>
		<dc:creator>Ed Yong</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Oct 2012 13:26:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Liv - thanks for the comment. If you have links to these sources, please do share them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Liv &#8211; thanks for the comment. If you have links to these sources, please do share them.</p>
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		<title>By: liv</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/notrocketscience/2012/10/20/ive-got-your-missing-links-right-here-20-october-2012/#comment-16207</link>
		<dc:creator>liv</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Oct 2012 07:40:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Ed, Love your blog and the vast majority of articles you post, but I was disappointed to see your link and summation of Bryan Christy&#039;s natgeo article. Sure, it sounds great, swashbuckling even. But he totally misunderstands (and misrepresents) the ETIS system, unintentionally or not. Also, and an element I imagine you may feel more strongly about, is that since the publication of this article, various sources have come out from the Philippines who were interviewed or connected to those interviewed claiming that Christy mis-represented himself in order to get information for his story. Im a conservationist, not a journalist, but I understand this kind of behaviousr seriously undermines Christy&#039;s journalistic integrity. To me this article smacks of sensationalism. Currently Ivory and Rhino horn trade are hot topics globally; time just published an article, great articles were also written in esquire and vanity fair recently about it, and many others. With everyone talking and writing about it, I think Christy had to sensationalise to get noticed.....Cheers</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Ed, Love your blog and the vast majority of articles you post, but I was disappointed to see your link and summation of Bryan Christy&#8217;s natgeo article. Sure, it sounds great, swashbuckling even. But he totally misunderstands (and misrepresents) the ETIS system, unintentionally or not. Also, and an element I imagine you may feel more strongly about, is that since the publication of this article, various sources have come out from the Philippines who were interviewed or connected to those interviewed claiming that Christy mis-represented himself in order to get information for his story. Im a conservationist, not a journalist, but I understand this kind of behaviousr seriously undermines Christy&#8217;s journalistic integrity. To me this article smacks of sensationalism. Currently Ivory and Rhino horn trade are hot topics globally; time just published an article, great articles were also written in esquire and vanity fair recently about it, and many others. With everyone talking and writing about it, I think Christy had to sensationalise to get noticed&#8230;..Cheers</p>
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		<title>By: oztiger</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/notrocketscience/2012/10/20/ive-got-your-missing-links-right-here-20-october-2012/#comment-16206</link>
		<dc:creator>oztiger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Oct 2012 03:58:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Ed,

the link for &quot;TEDx pulls down a notoriously wacky pseudoscience talk&quot; doesn&#039;t work.

BTW, there are some other nonsense TED talks. For example,  the talk &quot;What&#039;s wrong with our food system&quot; given by a child and his name is Birke Baehr. He attached GM crops without providing any valid scientific evidences, in order to promote organic farming.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Ed,</p>
<p>the link for &#8220;TEDx pulls down a notoriously wacky pseudoscience talk&#8221; doesn&#8217;t work.</p>
<p>BTW, there are some other nonsense TED talks. For example,  the talk &#8220;What&#8217;s wrong with our food system&#8221; given by a child and his name is Birke Baehr. He attached GM crops without providing any valid scientific evidences, in order to promote organic farming.</p>
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		<title>By: Gretchen Icenogle</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/notrocketscience/2012/10/20/ive-got-your-missing-links-right-here-20-october-2012/#comment-16205</link>
		<dc:creator>Gretchen Icenogle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Oct 2012 03:53:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ed, I&#039;m so grateful for this list every week - checking in with it has become one of my most warmly anticipated weekend rituals. Thank you!

This week I&#039;m especially eager to read the Barbara King article, but the link is dead, alas.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ed, I&#8217;m so grateful for this list every week &#8211; checking in with it has become one of my most warmly anticipated weekend rituals. Thank you!</p>
<p>This week I&#8217;m especially eager to read the Barbara King article, but the link is dead, alas.</p>
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		<title>By: Objectiviser</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/notrocketscience/2012/10/20/ive-got-your-missing-links-right-here-20-october-2012/#comment-16204</link>
		<dc:creator>Objectiviser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Oct 2012 20:38:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the link :)  Though the article is humorous, we are also trying to draw attention to the very serious human rights issues we feel are being affected in the Assange case.

http://www.wikiwatch.org.uk/assange-and-human-rights/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the link <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/notrocketscience/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />   Though the article is humorous, we are also trying to draw attention to the very serious human rights issues we feel are being affected in the Assange case.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.wikiwatch.org.uk/assange-and-human-rights/" rel="nofollow">http://www.wikiwatch.org.uk/assange-and-human-rights/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Isabel</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/notrocketscience/2012/10/20/ive-got-your-missing-links-right-here-20-october-2012/#comment-16203</link>
		<dc:creator>Isabel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Oct 2012 19:24:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot; 1) Religion is heavily responsible.&quot;

You might want to rethink this statement.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8221; 1) Religion is heavily responsible.&#8221;</p>
<p>You might want to rethink this statement.</p>
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