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	<title>Comments on: Senate Dems Close to Saying Yes to Offshore Drilling</title>
	<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/realitybase/2008/08/15/senate-dems-close-to-saying-yes-to-offshore-drilling/</link>
	<description>A blog about science, politics, and how to let each help the other without compromising them both.</description>
	<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jan 2009 04:46:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Charles Hill</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/realitybase/2008/08/15/senate-dems-close-to-saying-yes-to-offshore-drilling/#comment-1056</link>
		<dc:creator>Charles Hill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 17:07:27 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/realitybase/2008/08/15/senate-dems-close-to-saying-yes-to-offshore-drilling/#comment-1056</guid>
		<description>John McCain to support drilling in ANWR, biggest news from Palin/Gipson interview.

http://strategicthought-charles77.blogspot.com/2008/09/john-mccain-to-support-drilling-in-anwr.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John McCain to support drilling in ANWR, biggest news from Palin/Gipson interview.</p>
<p><a href="http://strategicthought-charles77.blogspot.com/2008/09/john-mccain-to-support-drilling-in-anwr.html" rel="nofollow">http://strategicthought-charles77.blogspot.com/2008/09/john-mccain-to-support-drilling-in-anwr.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: T. Boone Pickens Used By Democrats But As Usual, They&#8217;re Lying &#171; Blog Entry &#171; Dr. Melissa Clouthier</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/realitybase/2008/08/15/senate-dems-close-to-saying-yes-to-offshore-drilling/#comment-681</link>
		<dc:creator>T. Boone Pickens Used By Democrats But As Usual, They&#8217;re Lying &#171; Blog Entry &#171; Dr. Melissa Clouthier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Aug 2008 21:00:21 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/realitybase/2008/08/15/senate-dems-close-to-saying-yes-to-offshore-drilling/#comment-681</guid>
		<description>[...] their vocal minority constituency, the Green movement, while appealing to the broader public who want energy independence ala Picken&#8217;s style&#8211;that is to say: do everything. Drilling off-shore, drilling in ANWR, [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] their vocal minority constituency, the Green movement, while appealing to the broader public who want energy independence ala Picken&#8217;s style&#8211;that is to say: do everything. Drilling off-shore, drilling in ANWR, [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/realitybase/2008/08/15/senate-dems-close-to-saying-yes-to-offshore-drilling/#comment-666</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Aug 2008 03:40:35 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/realitybase/2008/08/15/senate-dems-close-to-saying-yes-to-offshore-drilling/#comment-666</guid>
		<description>Its a dead end technology.  Yes it was great while it lasted, but now  we are on the brink of posioning our planet to extinction to continue down a failed road.  Is it going to take a second Revolution to get the point across?  Instead of 2 billion for a new oil platform-use to build a wind farm.  Its not as hard as the politicians are making it out to be if they would listen to the people instead of King Coal and Prince Oil.  Where is the democracy?  If you see it, let me know so I go get a photo of it for sentimental sake.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Its a dead end technology.  Yes it was great while it lasted, but now  we are on the brink of posioning our planet to extinction to continue down a failed road.  Is it going to take a second Revolution to get the point across?  Instead of 2 billion for a new oil platform-use to build a wind farm.  Its not as hard as the politicians are making it out to be if they would listen to the people instead of King Coal and Prince Oil.  Where is the democracy?  If you see it, let me know so I go get a photo of it for sentimental sake.</p>
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		<title>By: LAGrant</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/realitybase/2008/08/15/senate-dems-close-to-saying-yes-to-offshore-drilling/#comment-663</link>
		<dc:creator>LAGrant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Aug 2008 14:21:46 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/realitybase/2008/08/15/senate-dems-close-to-saying-yes-to-offshore-drilling/#comment-663</guid>
		<description>If you write for Discover, maybe you'd like to put in a bit of effort on this article to 'discover' something.
Point by point:
"It probably won’t make any sizable dent in the oil market" - Define sizable. Maybe Bush's revocation of the Executive Order was purely coincidental with the continuing drop in oil prices since the announcement, but maybe the market is more complex than your simple dismissal supposes. What happens when more product is injected in a tight market, anyway? 

"the oil wouldn’t be available for the better part of a decade" - Define 'better part.' You might even want to talk to the spawn of the devil and interview a few oil hunters. You know, the guys who actually do this for a living. They would tell you, as they have others, that some new fields adjacent to old would add product in less than a year. Others would take longer, but what of it? How long before wind and solar add, say, 2K megawatts to our supplies?

"there’s already a shortage of oil rigs to do the drilling" - again, did you talk to any body in construction? What happens in that market thing when there's a demand for a rig? How long to build?

"any leaks or other environmental hazards that drilling could create." - Santa Barbara, OMG! Please tell me how many domestic blowouts have taken place since then? How about spills in countries that now allow such drilling, but don't provide the protections that the US does? Does 'environment' in your definition actually mean 'my neighborhood' or what?

Please do a little work on this and try for a little depth and nuance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you write for Discover, maybe you&#8217;d like to put in a bit of effort on this article to &#8216;discover&#8217; something.<br />
Point by point:<br />
&#8220;It probably won’t make any sizable dent in the oil market&#8221; - Define sizable. Maybe Bush&#8217;s revocation of the Executive Order was purely coincidental with the continuing drop in oil prices since the announcement, but maybe the market is more complex than your simple dismissal supposes. What happens when more product is injected in a tight market, anyway? </p>
<p>&#8220;the oil wouldn’t be available for the better part of a decade&#8221; - Define &#8216;better part.&#8217; You might even want to talk to the spawn of the devil and interview a few oil hunters. You know, the guys who actually do this for a living. They would tell you, as they have others, that some new fields adjacent to old would add product in less than a year. Others would take longer, but what of it? How long before wind and solar add, say, 2K megawatts to our supplies?</p>
<p>&#8220;there’s already a shortage of oil rigs to do the drilling&#8221; - again, did you talk to any body in construction? What happens in that market thing when there&#8217;s a demand for a rig? How long to build?</p>
<p>&#8220;any leaks or other environmental hazards that drilling could create.&#8221; - Santa Barbara, OMG! Please tell me how many domestic blowouts have taken place since then? How about spills in countries that now allow such drilling, but don&#8217;t provide the protections that the US does? Does &#8216;environment&#8217; in your definition actually mean &#8216;my neighborhood&#8217; or what?</p>
<p>Please do a little work on this and try for a little depth and nuance.</p>
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		<title>By: kuhnigget</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/realitybase/2008/08/15/senate-dems-close-to-saying-yes-to-offshore-drilling/#comment-661</link>
		<dc:creator>kuhnigget</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Aug 2008 02:48:42 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/realitybase/2008/08/15/senate-dems-close-to-saying-yes-to-offshore-drilling/#comment-661</guid>
		<description>Pelosi and Co. must use a different dictionary than the one I own. In mine, "compromise" does not mean "bend over backwards and let your opponents have their way."  I swear, if this Congress does any more compromising with the Bush administration, they'll be &lt;i&gt;needing&lt;/i&gt; that oil...for lubrication.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pelosi and Co. must use a different dictionary than the one I own. In mine, &#8220;compromise&#8221; does not mean &#8220;bend over backwards and let your opponents have their way.&#8221;  I swear, if this Congress does any more compromising with the Bush administration, they&#8217;ll be <i>needing</i> that oil&#8230;for lubrication.</p>
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		<title>By: johnny7</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/realitybase/2008/08/15/senate-dems-close-to-saying-yes-to-offshore-drilling/#comment-659</link>
		<dc:creator>johnny7</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Aug 2008 13:28:51 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/realitybase/2008/08/15/senate-dems-close-to-saying-yes-to-offshore-drilling/#comment-659</guid>
		<description>Drill here... drill now... or be voted out of office.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Drill here&#8230; drill now&#8230; or be voted out of office.</p>
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		<title>By: Ian</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/realitybase/2008/08/15/senate-dems-close-to-saying-yes-to-offshore-drilling/#comment-653</link>
		<dc:creator>Ian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 23:03:35 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/realitybase/2008/08/15/senate-dems-close-to-saying-yes-to-offshore-drilling/#comment-653</guid>
		<description>The whole drilling thing is pretty unfortunate. Since the entire oil industry revolves around futures and speculation, there's a good chance that this may reduce oil prices. That's about it.

It won't really make any progress towards a solution, and in all honesty it will probably slow things down. If congress and the publec are convinced that this brilliant plan will solve all of our problems, support of actual solutions will suffer. 

Too bad we don't have something short term solution that can safely provide both power and hydrogen for fuel cell cars. You know like this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Very_high_temperature_reactor</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The whole drilling thing is pretty unfortunate. Since the entire oil industry revolves around futures and speculation, there&#8217;s a good chance that this may reduce oil prices. That&#8217;s about it.</p>
<p>It won&#8217;t really make any progress towards a solution, and in all honesty it will probably slow things down. If congress and the publec are convinced that this brilliant plan will solve all of our problems, support of actual solutions will suffer. </p>
<p>Too bad we don&#8217;t have something short term solution that can safely provide both power and hydrogen for fuel cell cars. You know like this <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Very_high_temperature_reactor" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Very_high_temperature_reactor</a></p>
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