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	<title>Comments on: Don&#8217;t Know Much About Technology: McCain Tackles ScienceDebate Questions</title>
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		<title>By: opinionistas.com &#187; Blog Archive &#187; So, Uh, There&#8217;s This Election</title>
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		<dc:creator>opinionistas.com &#187; Blog Archive &#187; So, Uh, There&#8217;s This Election</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2008 12:26:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] that I have any strong opinions on which way it should all go down, of course. But the way I see things, it comes down to [...]</description>
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		<title>By: RebekahD</title>
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		<dc:creator>RebekahD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2008 13:20:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>McCain seems to have no problem using his Blackberry, which has much smaller keys than a standard keyboard. I suspect this keyboard disability was cooked up as an excuse by McCain&#039;s keepers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>McCain seems to have no problem using his Blackberry, which has much smaller keys than a standard keyboard. I suspect this keyboard disability was cooked up as an excuse by McCain&#8217;s keepers.</p>
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		<title>By: Rachael</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rachael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2008 21:52:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, I thought the snark was quite hilarious. So I guess go ahead and dump me into the liberal granola-eating hippy box so I can be safely dismissed.

I&#039;m really starting to think that &quot;media bias&quot; claims are really code for &quot;OMG YOU WERE MEAN TO MY CANDIDATE IN A WAY I CAN&#039;T REFUTE!&quot; While yes, you can certainly tell who the author here will be voting for, whining about it really does nothing to refute the points made above.

And frankly, I can&#039;t blame anyone who presumably cares about science (as one would assume at Discover Magazine) for taking potshots at a man who is sucking up to the anti-science religious arm of the Republican party as much as McCain is.  I&#039;m sure that, in general, science would love to stay away from politics, but there&#039;s a lot riding on this race that concerns the scientific community - funding, energy policy, education, etc. It just might be that there is some kind of clear line that can be drawn on who has a better science policy, and if that is the case, expecting some kind of equality in the criticism would be basically expecting someone to lie to make you feel better. 

Sometimes, both sides aren&#039;t equal on an issue. If they were, they wouldn&#039;t be disagreeing!

And I&#039;m kind of surprised Ms. Lafsky didn&#039;t decide to bring the hammer down on McCain&#039;s extremely lame answer about stem cells, but I guess that would have been a little too easy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, I thought the snark was quite hilarious. So I guess go ahead and dump me into the liberal granola-eating hippy box so I can be safely dismissed.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m really starting to think that &#8220;media bias&#8221; claims are really code for &#8220;OMG YOU WERE MEAN TO MY CANDIDATE IN A WAY I CAN&#8217;T REFUTE!&#8221; While yes, you can certainly tell who the author here will be voting for, whining about it really does nothing to refute the points made above.</p>
<p>And frankly, I can&#8217;t blame anyone who presumably cares about science (as one would assume at Discover Magazine) for taking potshots at a man who is sucking up to the anti-science religious arm of the Republican party as much as McCain is.  I&#8217;m sure that, in general, science would love to stay away from politics, but there&#8217;s a lot riding on this race that concerns the scientific community &#8211; funding, energy policy, education, etc. It just might be that there is some kind of clear line that can be drawn on who has a better science policy, and if that is the case, expecting some kind of equality in the criticism would be basically expecting someone to lie to make you feel better. </p>
<p>Sometimes, both sides aren&#8217;t equal on an issue. If they were, they wouldn&#8217;t be disagreeing!</p>
<p>And I&#8217;m kind of surprised Ms. Lafsky didn&#8217;t decide to bring the hammer down on McCain&#8217;s extremely lame answer about stem cells, but I guess that would have been a little too easy.</p>
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		<title>By: Mattness</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mattness</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 20:46:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mark said:

&quot;Secondly, Palin, in her two years as governor of Alaska, has drastically reduced the number and expense of earmark requests for her State. She sits in the largest State in the nation, geographically, yet asked for the least per square mile for insfrastructure earmarks.&quot;

Maybe instead of earmark dollar per square mile (wtf) you should use earmark dollar per citizen as your metric, which, frankly, makes a heck of a lot more sense. In that regard she has requested more per person that any other state in the US. (http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/nationworld/2008154532_webpalin02m.html)

But anyway, that discussion is off topic. Fact is, this article is &quot;snarky&quot; (obviously) because Wired is a science magazine and McCain holds many views that can be regarded as anti-scientific, Not to mention electing a creationist as VP candidate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark said:</p>
<p>&#8220;Secondly, Palin, in her two years as governor of Alaska, has drastically reduced the number and expense of earmark requests for her State. She sits in the largest State in the nation, geographically, yet asked for the least per square mile for insfrastructure earmarks.&#8221;</p>
<p>Maybe instead of earmark dollar per square mile (wtf) you should use earmark dollar per citizen as your metric, which, frankly, makes a heck of a lot more sense. In that regard she has requested more per person that any other state in the US. (<a href="http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/nationworld/2008154532_webpalin02m.html" rel="nofollow">http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/nationworld/2008154532_webpalin02m.html</a>)</p>
<p>But anyway, that discussion is off topic. Fact is, this article is &#8220;snarky&#8221; (obviously) because Wired is a science magazine and McCain holds many views that can be regarded as anti-scientific, Not to mention electing a creationist as VP candidate.</p>
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		<title>By: Will</title>
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		<dc:creator>Will</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 15:36:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m getting tired of hearing that such-and-such a magazine has a left or right-wing bias.  I&#039;d like to respond with a radical opinion: I DON&#039;T CARE.  It doesn&#039;t matter.  It has no relevance to any important subject what so ever.  Fox has a right-wing bias and Discover has a left-wing bias.  Who cares.

Whatever their bias is, they have to back it up with something.  Let&#039;s try to focus on whether or not what a media publication prints is the TRUTH or not.  Everything else will fall into place.  The best argument against this article&#039;s judgment against McCain is &quot;A war injury keeps him off the internet&quot;  Everything else is a complaint that McCain is being made fun of.

Come ON!  Is that really the best you can do?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m getting tired of hearing that such-and-such a magazine has a left or right-wing bias.  I&#8217;d like to respond with a radical opinion: I DON&#8217;T CARE.  It doesn&#8217;t matter.  It has no relevance to any important subject what so ever.  Fox has a right-wing bias and Discover has a left-wing bias.  Who cares.</p>
<p>Whatever their bias is, they have to back it up with something.  Let&#8217;s try to focus on whether or not what a media publication prints is the TRUTH or not.  Everything else will fall into place.  The best argument against this article&#8217;s judgment against McCain is &#8220;A war injury keeps him off the internet&#8221;  Everything else is a complaint that McCain is being made fun of.</p>
<p>Come ON!  Is that really the best you can do?</p>
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		<title>By: Miedvied</title>
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		<dc:creator>Miedvied</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 15:17:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The media is not supposed to be unbiased - it is supposed to be honest. There&#039;s a difference. The media&#039;s job is to hold politicians to account, and it cannot do that if it&#039;s not allowed to criticize anyone.

That said, the above post primarily showed the repeated hypocracy of McCain, illustrating the contrast between his history and actions and the &quot;statement&quot; he wrote. That is an effective way of questioning the sincerity of the statement, and there&#039;s nothing wrong with that.

All I see is people whining about how unfair it is to call a spade a spade.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The media is not supposed to be unbiased &#8211; it is supposed to be honest. There&#8217;s a difference. The media&#8217;s job is to hold politicians to account, and it cannot do that if it&#8217;s not allowed to criticize anyone.</p>
<p>That said, the above post primarily showed the repeated hypocracy of McCain, illustrating the contrast between his history and actions and the &#8220;statement&#8221; he wrote. That is an effective way of questioning the sincerity of the statement, and there&#8217;s nothing wrong with that.</p>
<p>All I see is people whining about how unfair it is to call a spade a spade.</p>
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		<title>By: Mitch Miller</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mitch Miller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 14:48:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mark said

&quot;She sits in the largest State in the nation, geographically, yet asked for the least per square mile for insfrastructure earmarks.&quot;


Lol, what a ridiculous metric.  I would think Alaska has always asked for the least per square mile for obvious reasons that have nothing to do with Palin.</description>
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<p>&#8220;She sits in the largest State in the nation, geographically, yet asked for the least per square mile for insfrastructure earmarks.&#8221;</p>
<p>Lol, what a ridiculous metric.  I would think Alaska has always asked for the least per square mile for obvious reasons that have nothing to do with Palin.</p>
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		<title>By: Cheyenne</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cheyenne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 14:17:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ms. Lafsky - 
Don&#039;t let the other commentators get you down. I don&#039;t think you should back down for helping to make Discover a science/leftist political magazine. I think as long as you are honest about your political bias people will respect you. It&#039;s when magazines, blogs, etc. try to hide it or sneak it into regular articles that people really take umbrage. 

There clearly isn&#039;t anything out there that is bias free (probably never was). At one point (in my early days) I would have thought a science magazine could avoid partisan politics- but I think I was a little naive!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ms. Lafsky &#8211;<br />
Don&#8217;t let the other commentators get you down. I don&#8217;t think you should back down for helping to make Discover a science/leftist political magazine. I think as long as you are honest about your political bias people will respect you. It&#8217;s when magazines, blogs, etc. try to hide it or sneak it into regular articles that people really take umbrage. </p>
<p>There clearly isn&#8217;t anything out there that is bias free (probably never was). At one point (in my early days) I would have thought a science magazine could avoid partisan politics- but I think I was a little naive!</p>
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		<title>By: MisterPost</title>
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		<dc:creator>MisterPost</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 13:46:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Congratulations on earning yourself some flames from the right-wing!
Sounds like you did something right.

Keep it up - our politicians need to be kept under the microscope (a tool invented for science, which helps us to learn more about the truth)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Congratulations on earning yourself some flames from the right-wing!<br />
Sounds like you did something right.</p>
<p>Keep it up &#8211; our politicians need to be kept under the microscope (a tool invented for science, which helps us to learn more about the truth)</p>
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		<title>By: llewelly</title>
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		<dc:creator>llewelly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 02:51:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hm. It appears the people whining about Lafsky&#039;s critique of McCain&#039;s answers to the ScienceDebate questions have no substantive defenses of McCain&#039;s answers. Nor do they have any substantive explanation for his long record of anti-science votes in the senate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hm. It appears the people whining about Lafsky&#8217;s critique of McCain&#8217;s answers to the ScienceDebate questions have no substantive defenses of McCain&#8217;s answers. Nor do they have any substantive explanation for his long record of anti-science votes in the senate.</p>
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		<title>By: McCain and Obama&#8217;s science advisors &#124; Bad Astronomy &#124; Discover Magazine</title>
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		<dc:creator>McCain and Obama&#8217;s science advisors &#124; Bad Astronomy &#124; Discover Magazine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 23:19:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] My co-DM blogger Melissa Lafksy has weighed in with her views on McCain&#8217;s [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] My co-DM blogger Melissa Lafksy has weighed in with her views on McCain&#8217;s [...]</p>
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		<title>By: phil</title>
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		<dc:creator>phil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 13:01:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What a piece of liberal trash -- read the replies and you will see most agree.
You didn&#039;t do any analysis - just sharp quips - which weren&#039;t even slightly humorous.
Sorry a science magazine has to be so political - my subscription may have been a mistake -</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What a piece of liberal trash &#8212; read the replies and you will see most agree.<br />
You didn&#8217;t do any analysis &#8211; just sharp quips &#8211; which weren&#8217;t even slightly humorous.<br />
Sorry a science magazine has to be so political &#8211; my subscription may have been a mistake -</p>
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		<title>By: Heidi Schuppenhauer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Heidi Schuppenhauer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Sep 2008 00:43:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>About McCain&#039;s war injuries: I&#039;d point out that Stephen Hawking is rather &quot;injured&quot; too, and more significantly, and somehow manages to use a computer. I&#039;ve known productive programmers that are totally blind. The fact is, there are in fact ways to use a computer for people with very major injuries: there are folks that have been working on this for decades, because computers are very good tools for people with physical issues. 

However, if McCain is in fact more disabled than Stephen Hawking, I&#039;d wonder if he is able to really lead this country?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>About McCain&#8217;s war injuries: I&#8217;d point out that Stephen Hawking is rather &#8220;injured&#8221; too, and more significantly, and somehow manages to use a computer. I&#8217;ve known productive programmers that are totally blind. The fact is, there are in fact ways to use a computer for people with very major injuries: there are folks that have been working on this for decades, because computers are very good tools for people with physical issues. </p>
<p>However, if McCain is in fact more disabled than Stephen Hawking, I&#8217;d wonder if he is able to really lead this country?</p>
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		<title>By: daryl</title>
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		<dc:creator>daryl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Sep 2008 22:27:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve noticed Miss Leftski is sort of a chameleon whether she realises it or not. Your attitude toward we seasoned citezens would have cost you a subscriber had I been one. 
 Remember what plays well at HuffPo falls flat and isn&#039;t so cute to a mature readership, dear.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve noticed Miss Leftski is sort of a chameleon whether she realises it or not. Your attitude toward we seasoned citezens would have cost you a subscriber had I been one.<br />
 Remember what plays well at HuffPo falls flat and isn&#8217;t so cute to a mature readership, dear.</p>
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		<title>By: Dennis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dennis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Sep 2008 21:12:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Uhhh...can we go back and look at the Obama response to see if similar snarky comments were made?  Of course they weren&#039;t.  Why was this even necessary?  Did an editor fail to see the totally snide comments appended to Senator McCain&#039;s responses?  I hope Discover can understand why many of us support the McCain campaigns attempts to show the utter bias of the media.  If Discover is in full throated support of Obama, say so and don&#039;t try to be so cutesy about it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Uhhh&#8230;can we go back and look at the Obama response to see if similar snarky comments were made?  Of course they weren&#8217;t.  Why was this even necessary?  Did an editor fail to see the totally snide comments appended to Senator McCain&#8217;s responses?  I hope Discover can understand why many of us support the McCain campaigns attempts to show the utter bias of the media.  If Discover is in full throated support of Obama, say so and don&#8217;t try to be so cutesy about it.</p>
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