Comments on: Insult to Injury: Katrina Kids Widely Sickened by FEMA Trailers http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/realitybase/2008/11/25/insult-to-injury-katrina-kids-widely-sickened-by-fema-trailers/ A blog about science, politics, and how to let each help the other without compromising them both. Thu, 08 Jan 2009 08:35:27 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.3.1 By: Matt Tarditti http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/realitybase/2008/11/25/insult-to-injury-katrina-kids-widely-sickened-by-fema-trailers/#comment-4112 Matt Tarditti Tue, 25 Nov 2008 21:00:19 +0000 http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/realitybase/2008/11/25/insult-to-injury-katrina-kids-widely-sickened-by-fema-trailers/#comment-4112 Before passing judgement on the ineptitude of FEMA on this one, I would like to see how many non-FEMA-trailer children had similar sicknesses, and compare similar percentages. No mention of non-trailer related health effects on the Newsweet report. My feeling is that the toxic soup that these children were around had a significant (if not complete) influence over the children's health. Full disclosure: I hate Bush too. Before passing judgement on the ineptitude of FEMA on this one, I would like to see how many non-FEMA-trailer children had similar sicknesses, and compare similar percentages. No mention of non-trailer related health effects on the Newsweet report. My feeling is that the toxic soup that these children were around had a significant (if not complete) influence over the children’s health. Full disclosure: I hate Bush too.

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By: Michael Shaw http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/realitybase/2008/11/25/insult-to-injury-katrina-kids-widely-sickened-by-fema-trailers/#comment-4111 Michael Shaw Tue, 25 Nov 2008 19:58:46 +0000 http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/realitybase/2008/11/25/insult-to-injury-katrina-kids-widely-sickened-by-fema-trailers/#comment-4111 Melissa- As you may know, the CDC testing done on the FEMA trailers came up with a geometric mean of only 77 ppb, lower than even the newly defined 100 ppb "Level of concern." Note that even these numbers were probably high in that no correction was made for the effects of cigarette smoke. Yes, there were a small number of trailers that did have levels higher than a few hundred ppb, but even those levels would only affect people who--frankly--were either already sick or highly sensitive. The main problem with the CDC testing was that it was not done terribly well, and there is a significant possibility that some of the trailer dwellers were coached to make the results higher. I would not put too much stock in the Salon story, especially since there there will be no successful suits against FEMA, unless the Supreme Court decides to go against the precedent of the Dalehite case, and I doubt that will happen. As to the "sickest kids" remark, it may well be true, but the sad fact is that poor health does correlate with poverty, and his finding is not surprising. It is unlikely that formaldehyde in those low concentrations created the sick kids. Melissa-

As you may know, the CDC testing done on the FEMA trailers came up with a geometric mean of only 77 ppb, lower than even the newly defined 100 ppb “Level of concern.”

Note that even these numbers were probably high in that no correction was made for the effects of cigarette smoke. Yes, there were a small number of trailers that did have levels higher than a few hundred ppb, but even those levels would only affect people who–frankly–were either already sick or highly sensitive.

The main problem with the CDC testing was that it was not done terribly well, and there is a significant possibility that some of the trailer dwellers were coached to make the results higher.

I would not put too much stock in the Salon story, especially since there there will be no successful suits against FEMA, unless the Supreme Court decides to go against the precedent of the Dalehite case, and I doubt that will happen.

As to the “sickest kids” remark, it may well be true, but the sad fact is that poor health does correlate with poverty, and his finding is not surprising. It is unlikely that formaldehyde in those low concentrations created the sick kids.

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