Comments on: Watchmen: Nuclear Holocaust Ain't What It Used to Be http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/sciencenotfiction/2009/03/09/watchmen-nuclear-holocaust-aint-what-it-used-to-be/ Wed, 22 Feb 2012 16:57:08 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4.2 By: robot electromenager http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/sciencenotfiction/2009/03/09/watchmen-nuclear-holocaust-aint-what-it-used-to-be/#comment-1440 robot electromenager Fri, 03 Dec 2010 03:28:22 +0000 http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/sciencenotfiction/2009/03/09/watchmen-nuclear-holocaust-aint-what-it-used-to-be/#comment-1440 Sorry for the criticism, but I'm dotty the new Zune, and this, as source as the excellent reviews any opposite grouping get holographic, leave you determine if it's the rightist action for you. Sorry for the criticism, but I’m dotty the new Zune, and this, as source as the excellent reviews any opposite grouping get holographic, leave you determine if it’s the rightist action for you.

]]> By: Otha Boblett http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/sciencenotfiction/2009/03/09/watchmen-nuclear-holocaust-aint-what-it-used-to-be/#comment-1439 Otha Boblett Wed, 11 Aug 2010 09:40:12 +0000 http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/sciencenotfiction/2009/03/09/watchmen-nuclear-holocaust-aint-what-it-used-to-be/#comment-1439 The only reason to assist community training can be to demonstrate your approval from the teacher's union,"teaching in the test", and lowering criteria in order to graduate extra uneducated kids. No youngster left behind.. .. given that the govt university strategy keeps nearly all of them from getting as well significantly ahead. They require to boost the bar instead of pumping out hoards of uneducated young children who are not equipped with all the necessary ability to to turned into productive members of society. The only reason to assist community training can be to demonstrate your approval from the teacher’s union,”teaching in the test”, and lowering criteria in order to graduate extra uneducated kids. No youngster left behind..
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given that the govt university strategy keeps nearly all of them from getting as well significantly ahead. They require to boost the bar instead of pumping out hoards of uneducated young children who are not equipped with all the necessary ability to to turned into productive members of society.

]]> By: Yasmin http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/sciencenotfiction/2009/03/09/watchmen-nuclear-holocaust-aint-what-it-used-to-be/#comment-1438 Yasmin Tue, 24 Mar 2009 03:49:12 +0000 http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/sciencenotfiction/2009/03/09/watchmen-nuclear-holocaust-aint-what-it-used-to-be/#comment-1438 Sorry to put this comment here but I couldn't find a place to comment on the actual article. So, yeah... Your blog? Where you implied that autism isn't a real disease?? And the next step - that mental disorders are all not real diseases? "There is no such thing as a mental disorder unless we make it up in a book"??? Number 1, hi Tom Cruise, and Number 2, WTF?? Just because there is no collapsed lung does not mean that there are no effects just as serious as a collapsed lung or (ew!) boils...suicide? Ever heard of it? I have followed you and your writing since your anonymous days and have always enjoyed your work, so I am hoping that what you wrote was just worded in such a way to make me misunderstand it. If it wasn't just poor wording, I have to say that I am really disappointed and sad to hear such ignorance from someone who is now writing for a science website. Kinda takes away your credibility... Sorry to put this comment here but I couldn’t find a place to comment on the actual article.

So, yeah…

Your blog? Where you implied that autism isn’t a real disease?? And the next step – that mental disorders are all not real diseases? “There is no such thing as a mental disorder unless we make it up in a book”??? Number 1, hi Tom Cruise, and Number 2, WTF?? Just because there is no collapsed lung does not mean that there are no effects just as serious as a collapsed lung or (ew!) boils…suicide? Ever heard of it?

I have followed you and your writing since your anonymous days and have always enjoyed your work, so I am hoping that what you wrote was just worded in such a way to make me misunderstand it. If it wasn’t just poor wording, I have to say that I am really disappointed and sad to hear such ignorance from someone who is now writing for a science website. Kinda takes away your credibility…

]]> By: P0rn Slappers | The Minority Report http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/sciencenotfiction/2009/03/09/watchmen-nuclear-holocaust-aint-what-it-used-to-be/#comment-1437 P0rn Slappers | The Minority Report Wed, 18 Mar 2009 23:35:21 +0000 http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/sciencenotfiction/2009/03/09/watchmen-nuclear-holocaust-aint-what-it-used-to-be/#comment-1437 [...] still writing for the Huffington Post. I can’t confirm the Huffington Post but I found that she wrote a review of Watchmen on the Discover Magazine [...] [...] still writing for the Huffington Post. I can’t confirm the Huffington Post but I found that she wrote a review of Watchmen on the Discover Magazine [...]

]]> By: Sanjiv Sarwate http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/sciencenotfiction/2009/03/09/watchmen-nuclear-holocaust-aint-what-it-used-to-be/#comment-1436 Sanjiv Sarwate Mon, 16 Mar 2009 15:20:37 +0000 http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/sciencenotfiction/2009/03/09/watchmen-nuclear-holocaust-aint-what-it-used-to-be/#comment-1436 The book also doesn't really feature or talk about the Russians, certainly not Gorbachev. I suspect Moore did that on purpose, since Soviet history probably unfolded quite differently in the Watchmen world than in ours. In particular, the persistence of Richard Nixon and the existence of Dr. Manhattan may have kept a moderating figure like Gorbachev from emerging. I agree about the story lacking some of the same punch now than it did when it was published. The enemies changed, but the story really couldn't. It's one thing to change the spider that bit Peter Parker from radioactive to genetically engineered, it's quite another to take a story created with the Cold War firmly in mind and try and transplant it to different threats. Too many things would have to change, and as it was, there was enough stuff that did change to make the film fail for even someone who is not a continuity fascist like me. There seemed to be things that Zack Snyder and the screenwriters just didn't get or appreciate. Case in point - the incident in the book where Jon Osterman's father dumps the watch gears off the fire escape and tells his son that atomic science, not watchmaking, is where the future lies, leading to Jon studying physics, was completely cut, and it was a bad cut. One of Osterman/ Dr. Manhattan's fundamental characteristics was his general passivity, which basically starts when he studies what his father tells him to. It runs through "they're making me into something gaudy and lethal," and his ambivalence about his involvement in Vietnam. On important issues, Dr. Manhattan is a spectator in his own life, and the movie seemed to miss that to a degree. The book also doesn’t really feature or talk about the Russians, certainly not Gorbachev. I suspect Moore did that on purpose, since Soviet history probably unfolded quite differently in the Watchmen world than in ours. In particular, the persistence of Richard Nixon and the existence of Dr. Manhattan may have kept a moderating figure like Gorbachev from emerging.

I agree about the story lacking some of the same punch now than it did when it was published. The enemies changed, but the story really couldn’t. It’s one thing to change the spider that bit Peter Parker from radioactive to genetically engineered, it’s quite another to take a story created with the Cold War firmly in mind and try and transplant it to different threats. Too many things would have to change, and as it was, there was enough stuff that did change to make the film fail for even someone who is not a continuity fascist like me.

There seemed to be things that Zack Snyder and the screenwriters just didn’t get or appreciate. Case in point – the incident in the book where Jon Osterman’s father dumps the watch gears off the fire escape and tells his son that atomic science, not watchmaking, is where the future lies, leading to Jon studying physics, was completely cut, and it was a bad cut. One of Osterman/ Dr. Manhattan’s fundamental characteristics was his general passivity, which basically starts when he studies what his father tells him to. It runs through “they’re making me into something gaudy and lethal,” and his ambivalence about his involvement in Vietnam. On important issues, Dr. Manhattan is a spectator in his own life, and the movie seemed to miss that to a degree.

]]> By: Fernando http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/sciencenotfiction/2009/03/09/watchmen-nuclear-holocaust-aint-what-it-used-to-be/#comment-1435 Fernando Tue, 10 Mar 2009 18:06:41 +0000 http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/sciencenotfiction/2009/03/09/watchmen-nuclear-holocaust-aint-what-it-used-to-be/#comment-1435 Don't think biological weapons would work. I mean, it is 1985 and there's a cold war going on. They were focusing on nukes, not bio weapons. Don’t think biological weapons would work. I mean, it is 1985 and there’s a cold war going on. They were focusing on nukes, not bio weapons.

]]> By: Scott http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/sciencenotfiction/2009/03/09/watchmen-nuclear-holocaust-aint-what-it-used-to-be/#comment-1434 Scott Tue, 10 Mar 2009 03:55:25 +0000 http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/sciencenotfiction/2009/03/09/watchmen-nuclear-holocaust-aint-what-it-used-to-be/#comment-1434 If one nuke gets detonated in anger, you can bet there will be nothing boring about the idea of nuclear war. Most post-apocalyptic stories I've seen of late still look like it was the bomb that brought everything down, as in Battlestar Galactica. If one nuke gets detonated in anger, you can bet there will be nothing boring about the idea of nuclear war. Most post-apocalyptic stories I’ve seen of late still look like it was the bomb that brought everything down, as in Battlestar Galactica.

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