Comments on: Comic-Con 2009: Get The Joker out of Arkham—He’s Not Insane. Who Knew? http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/sciencenotfiction/2009/07/24/comic-con-get-the-joker-out-of-arkham%e2%80%94hes-not-insane-who-knew/ The science of futurist technologies—and an excuse to soak in sci-fi TV shows, books, movies, toys, and video games. Fri, 20 Nov 2009 21:57:34 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: sgMarshall http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/sciencenotfiction/2009/07/24/comic-con-get-the-joker-out-of-arkham%e2%80%94hes-not-insane-who-knew/comment-page-1/#comment-10547 sgMarshall Wed, 14 Oct 2009 15:23:21 +0000 http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/sciencenotfiction/2009/07/24/comic-con-get-the-joker-out-of-arkham%e2%80%94hes-not-insane-who-knew/#comment-10547 I realize the blog is a retelling and may be not accurate as to what was actually discussed. "... and concealed identity..." I am not sure that's accurate. I haven't read the Joker in years, but he's not concealing his identity. He not like Batman and taking the Cowl off when off duty. As far as I know the Joker is his persona. It is a bit like saying goths are concealing their identity if they wear mascara and paint their nails. P.S. To the poster above. Manson isn't in a California Mental Institution, but was last I checked (and I actually checked) in the California Prison System. I realize the blog is a retelling and may be not accurate as to what was actually discussed.

“… and concealed identity…”

I am not sure that’s accurate. I haven’t read the Joker in years, but he’s not concealing his identity. He not like Batman and taking the Cowl off when off duty. As far as I know the Joker is his persona. It is a bit like saying goths are concealing their identity if they wear mascara and paint their nails.

P.S. To the poster above. Manson isn’t in a California Mental Institution, but was last I checked (and I actually checked) in the California Prison System.

]]> By: Christina http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/sciencenotfiction/2009/07/24/comic-con-get-the-joker-out-of-arkham%e2%80%94hes-not-insane-who-knew/comment-page-1/#comment-10122 Christina Sat, 01 Aug 2009 02:59:42 +0000 http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/sciencenotfiction/2009/07/24/comic-con-get-the-joker-out-of-arkham%e2%80%94hes-not-insane-who-knew/#comment-10122 wildofski not saying about Manson but Bundy... Do you know what he implied he used the skulls with broken out front teeth for to FBI agents? Now if he wasn't playing the insanity bit to avoid execution and really did that... Now legally They were both deemed sane. Bundy was executed but I believe the reason Manson wasn't was because at the time of his conviction they had repealed the death penalty (meaning there was no death penalty) in that State. If you go by legal definition they were both sane, when interviewed they did show awareness that murder is illegal aka wrong for example. If you go by clinical psychiatry however (DSM IV) then they were insane because they both had diagnosable conditions which fit the criteria for mental illness acording to the DSM IV . wildofski not saying about Manson but Bundy… Do you know what he implied he used the skulls with broken out front teeth for to FBI agents? Now if he wasn’t playing the insanity bit to avoid execution and really did that…

Now legally They were both deemed sane. Bundy was executed but I believe the reason Manson wasn’t was because at the time of his conviction they had repealed the death penalty (meaning there was no death penalty) in that State.

If you go by legal definition they were both sane, when interviewed they did show awareness that murder is illegal aka wrong for example. If you go by clinical psychiatry however (DSM IV) then they were insane because they both had diagnosable conditions which fit the criteria for mental illness acording to the DSM IV .

]]> By: ProjectPAT http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/sciencenotfiction/2009/07/24/comic-con-get-the-joker-out-of-arkham%e2%80%94hes-not-insane-who-knew/comment-page-1/#comment-10102 ProjectPAT Wed, 29 Jul 2009 23:02:27 +0000 http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/sciencenotfiction/2009/07/24/comic-con-get-the-joker-out-of-arkham%e2%80%94hes-not-insane-who-knew/#comment-10102 Batwing is right. Bundy and Manson belonged in prison, not the psych ward. No, they were NOT normal. But yes, they were in control of their actions, just like most criminals. Batwing is right. Bundy and Manson belonged in prison, not the psych ward. No, they were NOT normal. But yes, they were in control of their actions, just like most criminals.

]]> By: batwing http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/sciencenotfiction/2009/07/24/comic-con-get-the-joker-out-of-arkham%e2%80%94hes-not-insane-who-knew/comment-page-1/#comment-10089 batwing Wed, 29 Jul 2009 17:58:55 +0000 http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/sciencenotfiction/2009/07/24/comic-con-get-the-joker-out-of-arkham%e2%80%94hes-not-insane-who-knew/#comment-10089 they said insane is a legal term not a psychiatry term. and in the eyes of the law, sociopaths don't have a serious mental illness and get sent to prison not a forensic psych hospital. they said insane is a legal term not a psychiatry term. and in the eyes of the law, sociopaths don’t have a serious mental illness and get sent to prison not a forensic psych hospital.

]]> By: wildofski http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/sciencenotfiction/2009/07/24/comic-con-get-the-joker-out-of-arkham%e2%80%94hes-not-insane-who-knew/comment-page-1/#comment-10088 wildofski Wed, 29 Jul 2009 17:10:39 +0000 http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/sciencenotfiction/2009/07/24/comic-con-get-the-joker-out-of-arkham%e2%80%94hes-not-insane-who-knew/#comment-10088 I beg to differ. Would you say Ted Bundy or Charles Manson were sane? I beg to differ. Would you say Ted Bundy or Charles Manson were sane?

]]> By: kelsey http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/sciencenotfiction/2009/07/24/comic-con-get-the-joker-out-of-arkham%e2%80%94hes-not-insane-who-knew/comment-page-1/#comment-10081 kelsey Wed, 29 Jul 2009 06:52:48 +0000 http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/sciencenotfiction/2009/07/24/comic-con-get-the-joker-out-of-arkham%e2%80%94hes-not-insane-who-knew/#comment-10081 sociopathy is a synonym for antisocial personality disorder, which is what they said he had. sociopathy is a synonym for antisocial personality disorder, which is what they said he had.

]]> By: wildofski http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/sciencenotfiction/2009/07/24/comic-con-get-the-joker-out-of-arkham%e2%80%94hes-not-insane-who-knew/comment-page-1/#comment-10068 wildofski Tue, 28 Jul 2009 18:38:27 +0000 http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/sciencenotfiction/2009/07/24/comic-con-get-the-joker-out-of-arkham%e2%80%94hes-not-insane-who-knew/#comment-10068 There are wrong on the Joker, he's a classic case of sociopathological behavior. There are wrong on the Joker, he’s a classic case of sociopathological behavior.

]]> By: Daniel Palacio http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/sciencenotfiction/2009/07/24/comic-con-get-the-joker-out-of-arkham%e2%80%94hes-not-insane-who-knew/comment-page-1/#comment-10064 Daniel Palacio Tue, 28 Jul 2009 03:52:48 +0000 http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/sciencenotfiction/2009/07/24/comic-con-get-the-joker-out-of-arkham%e2%80%94hes-not-insane-who-knew/#comment-10064 They were promoting a website at the beginning of that panel. Do you remember what the URL was? They were promoting a website at the beginning of that panel. Do you remember what the URL was?

]]> By: Christina Viering http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/sciencenotfiction/2009/07/24/comic-con-get-the-joker-out-of-arkham%e2%80%94hes-not-insane-who-knew/comment-page-1/#comment-9998 Christina Viering Sat, 25 Jul 2009 01:15:39 +0000 http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/sciencenotfiction/2009/07/24/comic-con-get-the-joker-out-of-arkham%e2%80%94hes-not-insane-who-knew/#comment-9998 6 or 7? cool. 6 or 7? cool.

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