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	<title>Comments on: Genomics Has Bad News For The Singularity</title>
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		<title>By: Sylvia Mitchem</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/sciencenotfiction/2010/06/25/genomics-has-bad-news-for-the-singularity/#comment-2542</link>
		<dc:creator>Sylvia Mitchem</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Jul 2011 01:34:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wonderful site you have here friend. I am still really new on this webmaster universe and have very little talent about coding and alike. Would it be difficult to build and manage a site? My design ability is pretty good although I do think it&#039;ll be tough for me to create a pleasant design similar to yours. Apologies for the outside of issue comment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wonderful site you have here friend. I am still really new on this webmaster universe and have very little talent about coding and alike. Would it be difficult to build and manage a site? My design ability is pretty good although I do think it&#8217;ll be tough for me to create a pleasant design similar to yours. Apologies for the outside of issue comment.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/sciencenotfiction/2010/06/25/genomics-has-bad-news-for-the-singularity/#comment-2541</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Nov 2010 13:41:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The main reason we aren&#039;t doing anything with all the information provided by genetic sequencing is because we understand little as to how the genes express themselves. This problem will be solved by an advance in computational ability. Just because genomics is ahead of the curve in terms of growth and availability does not discredit any predictions made. It simply means we need to wait until computational power catches up and allows us to make sense of all the data we have gathered from our genomes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The main reason we aren&#8217;t doing anything with all the information provided by genetic sequencing is because we understand little as to how the genes express themselves. This problem will be solved by an advance in computational ability. Just because genomics is ahead of the curve in terms of growth and availability does not discredit any predictions made. It simply means we need to wait until computational power catches up and allows us to make sense of all the data we have gathered from our genomes.</p>
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		<title>By: Can We Really Reverse-Engineer the Brain by 2030? &#124; Science Not Fiction &#124; FEEDER</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/sciencenotfiction/2010/06/25/genomics-has-bad-news-for-the-singularity/#comment-2540</link>
		<dc:creator>Can We Really Reverse-Engineer the Brain by 2030? &#124; Science Not Fiction &#124; FEEDER</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Aug 2010 06:02:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] could give us the necessary data, exponential growth does not guarantee practical results, as I discussed in my post on progress in genomic sequencing. George Dvorsky, a Canadian futurist and colleague of [...] </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] could give us the necessary data, exponential growth does not guarantee practical results, as I discussed in my post on progress in genomic sequencing. George Dvorsky, a Canadian futurist and colleague of [...] </p>
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		<title>By: Can We Really Reverse-Engineer the Brain by 2030? &#124; Science Not Fiction &#124; Discover Magazine</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/sciencenotfiction/2010/06/25/genomics-has-bad-news-for-the-singularity/#comment-2539</link>
		<dc:creator>Can We Really Reverse-Engineer the Brain by 2030? &#124; Science Not Fiction &#124; Discover Magazine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Aug 2010 16:47:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] could give us the necessary data, exponential growth does not guarantee practical results, as I discussed in my post on progress in genomic sequencing. George Dvorsky, a Canadian futurist and colleague of [...] </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] could give us the necessary data, exponential growth does not guarantee practical results, as I discussed in my post on progress in genomic sequencing. George Dvorsky, a Canadian futurist and colleague of [...] </p>
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		<title>By: Francisco Ross</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/sciencenotfiction/2010/06/25/genomics-has-bad-news-for-the-singularity/#comment-2538</link>
		<dc:creator>Francisco Ross</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jul 2010 14:30:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Acceleration of hardware capability is not sufficient to build the future, but it is necessary, and in many cases, it is the most significant bottleneck. It&#039;s painfully true that our knowledge of the genetic &quot;compiler&quot; (how the genotype translates to phenotypes, especially for complex phenomena like intelligence) is primitive, but as you said, our ability to analyze many examples of the &quot;source code&quot; (the genotype itself) very quickly means that &quot;researchers [are] beginning to gain traction.&quot; This traction was not possible beforehand.

Just like the invention of the microscope served no intrinsic purpose without scientists looking through the lenses, so too is the mere ability to rapidly sequence genomes useless. Microbiology did not come into existence fully-formed on the day someone first cobbled some pieces of bent glass together. However, that hardware capability enabled the field&#039;s existence, and that branch of science arguably created a miniature technological singularity as a result, using Wikipedia&#039;s definition of &quot;[that which can] make the future ... unpredictable and qualitatively different from today.&quot; Living in a world moments after the mere inception of germ theory, as opposed to angry spirits who need to be appeased in order to keep one healthy, is a qualitative difference, don&#039;t you think?

A world in which we can rapidly sequence genomes is, in its own small way, qualitatively different from a world in which we cannot, and between the many thousands of advances in other fields just like this one (which are bootstrapped by one another, like the advances in genomic analysis that will arise because of the demand created by this rapid sequencing technology), we will see the emergence of overall exponential growth and completely unpredictable progress that futurists like Kurzweil predict. Assaulting the idea because the timeline of progress looks exactly as predicted - a slow start for a long time, then explosive growth - is foolish.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Acceleration of hardware capability is not sufficient to build the future, but it is necessary, and in many cases, it is the most significant bottleneck. It&#8217;s painfully true that our knowledge of the genetic &#8220;compiler&#8221; (how the genotype translates to phenotypes, especially for complex phenomena like intelligence) is primitive, but as you said, our ability to analyze many examples of the &#8220;source code&#8221; (the genotype itself) very quickly means that &#8220;researchers [are] beginning to gain traction.&#8221; This traction was not possible beforehand.</p>
<p>Just like the invention of the microscope served no intrinsic purpose without scientists looking through the lenses, so too is the mere ability to rapidly sequence genomes useless. Microbiology did not come into existence fully-formed on the day someone first cobbled some pieces of bent glass together. However, that hardware capability enabled the field&#8217;s existence, and that branch of science arguably created a miniature technological singularity as a result, using Wikipedia&#8217;s definition of &#8220;[that which can] make the future &#8230; unpredictable and qualitatively different from today.&#8221; Living in a world moments after the mere inception of germ theory, as opposed to angry spirits who need to be appeased in order to keep one healthy, is a qualitative difference, don&#8217;t you think?</p>
<p>A world in which we can rapidly sequence genomes is, in its own small way, qualitatively different from a world in which we cannot, and between the many thousands of advances in other fields just like this one (which are bootstrapped by one another, like the advances in genomic analysis that will arise because of the demand created by this rapid sequencing technology), we will see the emergence of overall exponential growth and completely unpredictable progress that futurists like Kurzweil predict. Assaulting the idea because the timeline of progress looks exactly as predicted &#8211; a slow start for a long time, then explosive growth &#8211; is foolish.</p>
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		<title>By: A particularly bad attack on the Singularity &#171; Physics and cake</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/sciencenotfiction/2010/06/25/genomics-has-bad-news-for-the-singularity/#comment-2537</link>
		<dc:creator>A particularly bad attack on the Singularity &#171; Physics and cake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jul 2010 18:43:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: georges</title>
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		<dc:creator>georges</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jul 2010 08:34:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Moore&#039;s law is about storing more transistors on an integrated circuit over time.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moore%27s_law
evolution of prices being only a consequence of it, not the law itself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Moore&#8217;s law is about storing more transistors on an integrated circuit over time.<br />
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moore%27s_law" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moore%27s_law</a><br />
evolution of prices being only a consequence of it, not the law itself.</p>
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		<title>By: Nekura</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/sciencenotfiction/2010/06/25/genomics-has-bad-news-for-the-singularity/#comment-2535</link>
		<dc:creator>Nekura</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jul 2010 23:39:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think this is a really poor comparison to make. Reading the genetic code is a decoding process, while designing computer chips is an encoding process. DNA will always be the same, but computer chips have to continually get denser and denser.

A better comparison might be between astronomical observational abilities and reading the genome. I don&#039;t know what metric would be useful for astronomy, so I don&#039;t know what the comparison would look like.

Nekura</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think this is a really poor comparison to make. Reading the genetic code is a decoding process, while designing computer chips is an encoding process. DNA will always be the same, but computer chips have to continually get denser and denser.</p>
<p>A better comparison might be between astronomical observational abilities and reading the genome. I don&#8217;t know what metric would be useful for astronomy, so I don&#8217;t know what the comparison would look like.</p>
<p>Nekura</p>
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