Comments on: The Fundamental Problems of Minority Report-style Biometrics http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/sciencenotfiction/2010/09/28/the-fundamental-problems-of-minority-report-style-biometrics/ Wed, 22 Feb 2012 16:57:08 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4.2 By: turbo-seo.szczecin.pl http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/sciencenotfiction/2010/09/28/the-fundamental-problems-of-minority-report-style-biometrics/#comment-3472 turbo-seo.szczecin.pl Mon, 06 Jun 2011 20:25:22 +0000 http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/sciencenotfiction/?p=2751#comment-3472 35. Magnificent site. A lot of helpful information here. I am sending it to some buddies ans additionally sharing in delicious. And obviously, thank you to your sweat! 35. Magnificent site. A lot of helpful information here. I am sending it to some buddies ans additionally sharing in delicious. And obviously, thank you to your sweat!

]]> By: Brian Too http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/sciencenotfiction/2010/09/28/the-fundamental-problems-of-minority-report-style-biometrics/#comment-3471 Brian Too Sat, 02 Oct 2010 01:09:06 +0000 http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/sciencenotfiction/?p=2751#comment-3471 The accuracy problems are all overstated. Put in a management regime and all those can be addressed. We do it all the time with credit reports. It's not perfect but basically it works. The big problems are societal. If the governments themselves cannot be trusted (I'm talking about authoritarian regimes here), then basic feedback mechanisms about how citizens can express their will to their government are fundamentally limited. Unfortunately authoritarian governments tend to view control mechanisms that would be enabled by biometrics, as ideal solutions to their problems! Also, this does move the bar in terms of where privacy and anonymity begins and identification ends. The bar is already moving due to the internet, but changing the expectations of citizens can take a long time. However people (mainly young people) are running towards the social networking systems. The accuracy problems are all overstated. Put in a management regime and all those can be addressed. We do it all the time with credit reports. It’s not perfect but basically it works.

The big problems are societal. If the governments themselves cannot be trusted (I’m talking about authoritarian regimes here), then basic feedback mechanisms about how citizens can express their will to their government are fundamentally limited. Unfortunately authoritarian governments tend to view control mechanisms that would be enabled by biometrics, as ideal solutions to their problems!

Also, this does move the bar in terms of where privacy and anonymity begins and identification ends. The bar is already moving due to the internet, but changing the expectations of citizens can take a long time. However people (mainly young people) are running towards the social networking systems.

]]> By: dander http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/sciencenotfiction/2010/09/28/the-fundamental-problems-of-minority-report-style-biometrics/#comment-3470 dander Fri, 01 Oct 2010 00:38:06 +0000 http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/sciencenotfiction/?p=2751#comment-3470 Wouldn't an individual's eye scan, finger print, etc change slowly over time? Couldn't this information be updated every time someone used that system? So unless someone were to not use a given system for years then it wouldn't be a problem Wouldn’t an individual’s eye scan, finger print, etc change slowly over time? Couldn’t this information be updated every time someone used that system? So unless someone were to not use a given system for years then it wouldn’t be a problem

]]> By: Jethro http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/sciencenotfiction/2010/09/28/the-fundamental-problems-of-minority-report-style-biometrics/#comment-3469 Jethro Wed, 29 Sep 2010 16:20:23 +0000 http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/sciencenotfiction/?p=2751#comment-3469 and to further the problems, if other countries such as Russia, China, and Pakistan demand that you have your iris scan to enter their country, could they use your iris code to breach or misuse your identity? I am sure the Russian Mafia will pay big bucks for such valuable information. So I am having a few drinks waiting for my delayed flight, oops, them five drinks may have been too much since now my pupils are very dilated which has changed my iris structure and then refused my flight. Or them new medications which either constricted or dilated my pupils won't allow me to take out any funds from my ATM. What about the factor of Aging irises which may cause problems or whether eye disease such as stigmatisms, cataracts, inflammations could cause iris recognition systems to fail? I bet this consideration has not been well researched. The next step will be the insurance companies buying up all your iris scanned images to see if you have any health problems, on certain drugs (pharma and illicit), neurological diseases, syndromes and then cancel your insurance if you are too high of a risk. Google pupil analysis or check out pupilcheckup.com to see what various pupil signs can indicate. Then the day comes when you also get your eyes analyzed by the DEA to make sure you are smoking any of them herbal stimulants! Different drugs have different effects on the pupils and soon the police will be using eye scans to check for possible illicit drug use while driving your car, which may not be a bad thing.. unless you are taking some other doctor prescribed medication that mimics the same response as some illicit drug and spend time in jail until you can prove your innocence. Attorneys will love this new technology!! If all fails you can always look forward to the new breed of cosmetic surgery that will allow you to change your iris structure in case you need a new identity... ;) and to further the problems, if other countries such as Russia, China, and Pakistan demand that you have your iris scan to enter their country, could they use your iris code to breach or misuse your identity? I am sure the Russian Mafia will pay big bucks for such valuable information.

So I am having a few drinks waiting for my delayed flight, oops, them five drinks may have been too much since now my pupils are very dilated which has changed my iris structure and then refused my flight. Or them new medications which either constricted or dilated my pupils won’t allow me to take out any funds from my ATM.

What about the factor of Aging irises which may cause problems or whether eye disease such as stigmatisms, cataracts, inflammations could cause iris recognition systems to fail? I bet this consideration has not been well researched.

The next step will be the insurance companies buying up all your iris scanned images to see if you have any health problems, on certain drugs (pharma and illicit), neurological diseases, syndromes and then cancel your insurance if you are too high of a risk. Google pupil analysis or check out pupilcheckup.com to see what various pupil signs can indicate.
Then the day comes when you also get your eyes analyzed by the DEA to make sure you are smoking any of them herbal stimulants! Different drugs have different effects on the pupils and soon the police will be using eye scans to check for possible illicit drug use while driving your car, which may not be a bad thing.. unless you are taking some other doctor prescribed medication that mimics the same response as some illicit drug and spend time in jail until you can prove your innocence. Attorneys will love this new technology!!

If all fails you can always look forward to the new breed of cosmetic surgery that will allow you to change your iris structure in case you need a new identity… ;)

]]> By: SF Signal: SF Tidbits for 9/29/10 http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/sciencenotfiction/2010/09/28/the-fundamental-problems-of-minority-report-style-biometrics/#comment-3468 SF Signal: SF Tidbits for 9/29/10 Wed, 29 Sep 2010 06:25:15 +0000 http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/sciencenotfiction/?p=2751#comment-3468 [...] on Margaret Atwood and Ursula K. Le Guin debate science fiction vs. "realism". Discover Magazine on The Fundamental Problems of Minority Report-style Biometrics. Lawrence Person on A Short, Incomplete, and Somewhat Random List of People Who Have Had Their [...] [...] on Margaret Atwood and Ursula K. Le Guin debate science fiction vs. "realism". Discover Magazine on The Fundamental Problems of Minority Report-style Biometrics. Lawrence Person on A Short, Incomplete, and Somewhat Random List of People Who Have Had Their [...]

]]> By: oświetlenie http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/sciencenotfiction/2010/09/28/the-fundamental-problems-of-minority-report-style-biometrics/#comment-3467 oświetlenie Tue, 28 Sep 2010 19:15:15 +0000 http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/sciencenotfiction/?p=2751#comment-3467 Congrats, brilliant post. Congrats, brilliant post.

]]> By: Rhacodactylus http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/sciencenotfiction/2010/09/28/the-fundamental-problems-of-minority-report-style-biometrics/#comment-3466 Rhacodactylus Tue, 28 Sep 2010 16:13:12 +0000 http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/sciencenotfiction/?p=2751#comment-3466 Guess we will have to solve aging before we can really count on biometrics. Guess we will have to solve aging before we can really count on biometrics.

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